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What Really Causes High BP and Cholesterol?

Google “cholesterol scam” and “high salt people live longer”

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Consensus? Consensus opinion was the earth is flat and Pluto was a planet.

Better to go with facts and figures not opinions.

Most gps know stuff all about diet.

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," because of their novelty such studies tend to garner more attention than they warrant."

This is nonsense. Data clearly shows people with high C and high S live longer.

Science is about data.

I have no doubt the billion dollar sugar industry funded studies to blame shift health issues onto salt and fatty foods when science now clearly shows its sugar and processed carbs doing the damage.

At the risk of triggering you, Terminator, this is a silly thing to say.

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Opinions mean nothing. Like asking 10 people in a casino what the next card will be. Science is about facts. The consensus opinion is wrong most of the time.

The studies on diet show higher salt and cholesterol people live longer. That’s what the data says. That’s not my opinion, just what the data says.

“The studies,” as in all of them? Or “the studies” as in ‘THE studies,’ meaning the final word on the subject?

Data says so. Look it up.

“a 2006 American Journal of Medicine study compared the reported daily sodium intakes of 78 million Americans to their risk of dying from heart disease over the course of 14 years. It found that the more sodium people ate, the less likely they were to die from heart disease”

Sample size is 78m!

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Last time I went to a doctor (which is pretty rare) I asked about what causes high cholesterol, assuming that maybe doctors were up to date with the latest research. He told me that it was 100% caused by diet. I have never been told I have high cholesterol, I was just asking out of curiosity.

in nineteen large studies of more than 68,000 deaths, reviewed by David R. Jacobs and his co-workers from the Division of Epidemiologyat the University of Minnesota, low cholesterol predicted an increased risk of dying from gastrointestinal and respiratory diseases.

I read something the other day saying that higher sodium intake is beneficial for blood pressure and other things up to a certain point, I think it was something like 16g per day, and then it really is a problem. Apparently there are very few people who eat that much salt, the article mentioned certain communities in China that use soy sauce in everything.

Gps are up to date with drugs, not much with diet. They do very little diet studies. Most just say eat a balanced diet and exercise. Pretty vague.

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Carbs raise your BP. Salt only does if you are salt sensitive which a small % are.

Very low salt kills people.

Yeah, but it’s common sense that too much of anything is bad, do you have any data that shows that there is no upper limit for salt intake? At some point you would end up being totally preserved like salted meat or fish.

Please don’t tell me you think someone conducted a human medical study with a sample size of 78M…

This is the reported data. You have no science.