Professor X wrote:
I for sure have no problem with the War Room (well besides being a pacifist ), because the distinction works - and it doesn’t take away an access people used to have. T-Cell Alpha does - or at least gives that impression. If this were a military site which would install a ‘Weight Room’, perhaps the whole thing would be reverse.
How does the T-Cell take away access that you used to have? When there was no T-Cell, you had no access. Therefore, it takes nothing away. Not to mention, everyone can still read that forum even if they can’t post in it, so again, where and when did you LOSE access you used to have?
I would argue that the T-Cell tries to concentrate ‘serious’ discussion on bodybuilding. Now - and I didn’t say ‘I’, but - ‘people’ who are serious, but eg. new to the site, or only used to read but now would like to take part in the ‘serious’ discussion can’t anymore.
This takes away an opportunity they used to have - post freely on a freely accessible website on bodybuilding related issues. That’s been taken away. Some may say that was worth it - it’s quite obvious I don’t.
Yes, there’s still the ‘bodybuilding’ forum, but with all discussion on the T-Cell, it’s been made clear where the ‘serious’ discussion is to take place. That’s created two classes of members here - the ones that have been granted access, and the ones who haven’t; oh and the ones being tribunaled for what ever reason. I’m not going to repeat the d-word, but so far I’m not convinced if it was worth it. Not resisting a ‘General Fitness’ forum may have helped focus the discussion better.
This is a weight lifting site where some of the people don’t even lift weights. Those same people have no problem GIVING advice on lifting.
We all are aware of that. I always thought that the better advice by the more experienced poster, just like yourself, would prevail against those. I simply believe in the better argument. I never had many problems filtering out the crap - that’s why I ignore most of HH’s posts in the Politics forum - this is an internet forum, it’s just part of life.
Not to start our whole disagreement again - I’m just not yet convinced by the T-Cell, and I think its (undisputed) merits may not supersede its flaws. I therefore don’t use it, and keep on making my point on the forums where everyone is free to take part.
But again - it’s early days - let’s see what happens. Oh yeah, and I have no problems with the War Room as a T-Cell, as it doesn’t have the above issues (just as not to hijack this thread).
I assume this post you wrote was serious? That would mean we LOST access to discuss bodybuilding free of non-bodybuilding related tangents when so many of those types filled up the bodybuilding forum.
I doubt anyone cares whether you are “convinced” about the T-Cell.
For someone making a point to not use it, you sure do TALK ABOUT IT A LOT.