What Kills Natural Test Production?

Im trying to get on TRT, my GP ran my Test and it came back at 240. I was sent to an endo, and the test came back again at 320. Beacuse I am at 320 he said, even though im on the low side (im 27 years old) Im not low enough to get a script. So I need to get that number down. there are only 3 endos in my insurance network in the area.

So im having a hard time getting test. IM going to try and talk my GP into just setting me up on some test so that when I see a new Endo (IN JAN!) I can already be on TRT and then he cant refuse me… Thats the idea anyway.

But if that doesnt work.

My buddy has some Dbol, Tbol, and I only know 1 site where I can get some Helladrol.

Will any of that shut me down so my T-levels are really low?

I have crohns diease and im takinging stuff that kills my immune system, so I dont want to get my own stuff though a UGL. Im scared of the risk of getting dirty product. Otherwise id already be trying to figure out how to get it on my own.

So will a cycle of Dbol or PHs Kill my natty test? If not… What will and where can I get it? (If its something ok to post where to get it)

Any Ideas?

Run a cycle and turn up for a test just after its all out of your system and before you start PCT, should be really low then?

Did you not read the whole post SamBoy. He is on medication that lowers his immune system so taking a chance of injecting shit gear from UGL is even more dangerous for him than most. Hence why he can’t go that route yet.

Get very little sleep the few nights before the test, starve yourself, drink a shitload of alcohol and do a lot of cardio. That should do it

Sounds like Ranger School.

Yeah I tried not sleeping at all before the test that came back at 320. Im going to try and talk to my GP and see if he will just get me the damn script already. or ill just start going to a new Primary care doc every week, print out the protocol sticky from the TRT section and say… Can you do this for me? No, Bye. and Move to the next.

There has to be a better way to get on Test… I have crohns, I have no sex drive, I have no energy, I lost 80lbs (Including all my muscle)… And now that my crohns is starting to get better and im adding carbs and such back into my diet. Im just getting fat, no energy to lift hard, the lifting that I am doing isnt producing any muscle gain. Its driving me crazy.

Im really close to saying that the reward is worth the risk going though a UGL. but I dont even know where to start to try and find a source. (Not fishing)

So im between a rock and a hard place. and its causing major depression. Not to mention my gf left me for a juice head. (Go figure) after I got sick and lost weight. So that just adds to the negative self image at the moment.

I really need help. There has to be someone in orange county, that can nudge me and say here bud. Let me tell you what to do, where to go, what doctors are around the area. etc etc…

F this disease, F my ex, F stupid doctors. And Thanks to you guys for the advice lol.

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Get very little sleep the few nights before the test, starve yourself, drink a shitload of alcohol and do a lot of cardio. That should do it[/quote]

Thanks. This will come in handy when my new endo sees em for the first time and wants to re-test me (in JAN!!!) wtf? Thats the soonest they can get me in.

Ill be damned to wait that long. Im determined to find something sooner.

To lower test (without the use of steroids):
no sex for 10 weeks (that includes masturbation), get fatter through increase of carbs (which means you’ll also thrash your health), watch a Jane Austin film or a musical, wear pastel yellow/ white colors, do an endurance sport, watch your favorite team lose (so tape the worst game you’ve ever seen and watch it before you go in for your test), lose a competitive game yourself, think about any other scenario where you came out a loser, don’t sleep enough, get tested later in the day, don’t take caffeine, don’t watch porn or action films, don’t fix anything (unless you fail at it), don’t handle a gun, get bullied, stay away from heavy weights, etc. (just reading that pile of depressive shit will probably already lower your test)

OR alternatively (and probably better for your overall health and well-being), find another GP that’s willing to work with you. Even if you get that endo to put you on TRT they’ll probably find a way to fuck it up for you anyway.

AND alternatively it might be possible to beat your Crohn’s. Look into ketogenic diets and Crohn’s, here’s an example:

who knows what that might do for your natural test levels.

All the best

ISince you are young, wouldn’t it be preferable to first eliminate possible medical reasons (e.g. drugs) that may be causing low T and resolving it if possible? TRT for life is no joke, and will never feel quite the same as being natural. I say this as someone who is on TRT.

I would recommend strongly that you investigate whether any of the the medications you are taking for Chrohn’s might be causing low T. Some DMARDs can cause low T and could be changed for other medications, such as biologicals, that don’t have that effect on T. Also, opioid painkillers, if you are on any, are big culprits in causing low T. (I have an autoimmune condition as well, so I know some of the ins and outs of the meds typically used.)

So take a deep breath and think intelligently about what you want your future to be rather than letting your current depression make your decisions for you.

[quote]Reed wrote:
Did you not read the whole post SamBoy. He is on medication that lowers his immune system so taking a chance of injecting shit gear from UGL is even more dangerous for him than most. Hence why he can’t go that route yet.[/quote]

Nope sorry missed that bit, my bad.