What is TRT and What is NOT TRT

Trough at 7 or 10 days? Procotol: injection frequency?

Great work.

I guess that would be me then. He got me to stop poisoning myself with anastrozole.

Injection frequency is usually once every 7-10 days depending on my schedule.

I used to be an absolute madman pincushion - now I loathe 1 shot a week.

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Trough TT number?
SHBG?

On my last bloods 2 months ago

SHBG was 10 iirc
My trough TT number was 1050 I think.

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Nevermind I pulled my bloodwork and my SHBG was 68 lol

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Gotcha. So if that is 7 day trough your mean TT level over the week ~1600 ng/dl using 4.5 day elimination half life.

You are about 30-40 percentile on the dose response charts above.

Thanks for the data points.

Would be cool to use forum to put everyone on the graphs.

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That was 11 days trough.

Oh ok. That changes things up. Mean above 2000 ng/dl and your dose response in the upper quartile.

Not exactly the same but similar to another guy on here using 250 mg/week:

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You are welcome on there too.

Beats going to Youtube where they have no idea what your level will be vs dose. Decent harm minimization tool.

I think @azza23 may have liked to know this beforehand.

I would like to see mine on the graph for my recent blast.

Was on 875 mg (250 mg EOD), pulled labs between the shots (pinned Wed morning, pulled blood on Thursday morning).

TT = 4687 ng/dL
FT = 1585 pg/mL

Was Quest labs if that matters.

I also have blood work from 200 mg/wk (lowered that to 175 mg/wk now). The dosing strategy was a bit weird though. 62.5 mg Mon, 62.5 mg Wed, 75 mg Fri. I pulled the bloods on Friday morning (and injections were in the morning).

TT = 1223 ng/dL
FT = 274.3 pg/mL
SHBG = 35

Quest this time as well. This was the method.

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We are going to have to get a bigger graph :grin:

Quest fT assay? SHBG?

LCMS on the TT?

#omgyouregonnadie!!!

I’ll edit my post. I also included my blood work from 200 mg/wk. I didn’t pull SHBG on the blast blood work, but my SHBG seems to be fairly stable in previous bloods (between 34-36). Wasn’t using orals at the time, only Test for that portion of the blast.

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Please confirm /deny TT test was lcms.

What assay or calculation for fT?

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I posted an image. I am not sure. It says Free (Dialysis), and Total, MS

I believe in the details of the test it says this.

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So I think LCMSMS? Whatever that means?

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Great. Equilbrium dialysis for fT and lc/ms-ms for TT. If everyone was this thorough :point_up_2::+1:

I will start a new data set with TNation members and expand the domain. For folks that are sincere feel free to add your results.

Rules

  1. Minimum of 4-5 weeks with the protocol
  2. State protocol (weekly amount of test ester and frequency)
  3. LC/MS-MS results only for TT levels above 1500 ng/dl
  4. Please state assay/lab used
  5. SHBG and fT will be considered and I may make a fT plot at some point (please state the type of fT assay or calculated).

And this is “TRT” thread. So please disclose any other AAS used concurrently (especially 17AA) which may skew TT response via SHBG in the gutter.

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I meet all of those criteria for both sets of labs aside from not having SHBG on the blast labs.

Been thinking it is about time to get labs on the 50 mg EOD protocol.

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