[quote]Professor X wrote:
You seem to be doing just fine on that. I mean, that is what you are doing, right? Trying to discount other people’s lifts if they don’t fit your own personal definition?
Therefore, obviously to look at the way I train and try to discredit the lift is pointless…because it works for my own goals.
I started lifting with powerlifters. I always lifted for size AND strength. You don’t have a point if it works.[/quote]
Prof - I am not trying to discredit your lift, just trying to get you to qualify it. Since you haven’t specified how much you stop short on the bench, it is hard to know how much to qualify it. If you are really 1/2 inch short then little qualification is necessary, you may only be making the lift 0~3% easier. If you (or anybody) was stopping short several inches (I know you said you don’t do that) that would require a larger qualification.
I have said a million times that stopping short can be effective for increasing size and it is not bad. There is a huge difference between not fitting the definition of a specific exercise and being a bad or useless exercise. Some exercises have pretty set definitions. I see no problem with encouraging people to try to use those standard definitions.
If I practice with a 12 lb shot put and get bigger and more powerful with that, that is fine. But if I say I threw the shot 60 feet, which is true, but it was only a 12 lb shot put instead of a 16 lb shot put, it changes the equation a little bit. It doesn’t do anything to take away from the size and power I built using the 12 lb shot, but I should qualify what I was doing if I was talking with somebody else who threw the shot. That is all I am saying on that issue, nothing more and nothing less.
Now, if you want to talk about pausing a bench…