Thanks for replies. The party thing was just an example, you can ignore that part if you want. So say you were in the gym and you were talking about training and somebody said “I hit a new max of 450” or they said “I can do reps with 365” or anything like that, would you still need to hit your chest in order for it to count, or is stopping short okay? That is what I am asking about, the social scene was just an example that is basically irrelevant to the question.[/quote]
I think I know what you’re trying to get at, and I still say it doesn’t matter. There is a huge difference between gym lifts and the powerlifting events of squat, bench, and dead. You can’t really set some rules that you think should be there on some gym lifts. Rules are put in place for a set standard to compare different people competing against eachother. Gym lifts are just means to a end, a pathway to a goal. Whether that goal is a bigger chest or a bigger bench poundage is individual.
If you have a friend that claims a new max of X amount, you say, “Hey good for you,” and congratulate him for getting stronger in a variation of a lift that works for him and hopefully matches his goals, regardless of how he chooses to define the lift.
If you don’t like his way of defining the lift, too bad. Lot’s of movements have different names and many different variations. Scott curls and preacher curls are just one example. Also, if I asked how much you overhead press, how do I know if you mean a military press, push press, push jerk, or whatever? I don’t know because an overhead press can mean all the above.
The point is, it really doesn’t matter what numbers people claim to lift. The numbers that do matter come from competition. That includes competition against yourself and your previous numbers to ensure you are making gains.
Seriously, I know this a beginner thing because it is about the bench press when there are so many more controversial and harder to define lifts out there. Do you get bothered by your friends’ claimed bent-over row numbers? Probably not because they either don’t do rows or neither you or them has any concept of what makes a good, great, or ridiculous rowing poundage claim.