[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
pro-a-ggression wrote:
wow, is he still natural and are all those pics natural?? he looks really awesome, fucking arms are insane, similar to levrone.
Looks like he’s competing in the NPC now, so…doubtful.
I always had a hard time believing he was natural. I mean look at the other natural pro’s, a lot of them are no where near his size or conditioning, and KM doesn’t even have his procard. [/quote] Didn’t he train with levrone for a while or so? The two are practically carbon copies when it comes to strength/weaknesses (while drug-free I mean… look at levrone’s transformation pics…) and approach.
I’d believe his natural status… Why not. [quote]
Some of the competitions he does, like musclemania, from what I hear are kind of infamous for it’s competitors taking as much drugs as they can get away with.
He’s nearly 40 too, so I’m not sure how he’s able to hold on to all that mass. [/quote] !? 40 is when most peak… [quote]
I’m pretty confident that any “natty” that looks like he’s been using steroids has in fact used them. Hell there’s even a thread on bodybuilding.com where John Hansen, a guy who won the natural Mr. O contest, admits to using AAS to diet down for most contests. His excuse was that everyone was doing it so he had to to be competitive.[/quote] He did that once or twice early on I think, it’s in his book as well. [quote]
I’m also willing to bet whatever natty league he competes in has some pretty lax testing.
To be honest, I think natural contests are hurting bodybuilding more than untested ones, but that’s just my opinion.
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I dunno man… The problem with natty competitions is that no one wants to believe that these guys are natural. There’s practically no reason for them to stay away from gear, everyone practically hates them and accuses them of using anyway.
Bit sad, really.
And I still say Kiyoshi was natural. Not sure if he still is, I don’t keep up with the news on him, but I have no problem believing that he was drug-free back when that T-Nation interview was done.