It will take time for estrogen to become elevated if at all, so don’t start out on the AI. Your estrogen may become high for a short period of time as your levels swing day to day, try not to tap out and go for the AI and let things settle.
One way to know if AI dose is too high is headaches or pain behind the eyes followed by excess yawning, if this happens stop use of the AI.
Numbers were a bit blurry, but it looked like TT=578, and FT=17.6. I agree with you that these numbers could be improved to good numbers with weight loss, and other lifestyle improvements.
I would not go on TRT with these numbers. If those numbers were TT<400, FT<10, sure TRT may be warranted.
Be aware OP Free T isn’t high normal and is actually lower do to his age, 25 pg/mL would be high normal for him, 17 pg/mL is below mid-range which is why he was approved for TRT.
You are pissing up a rope systemlord this boy should not have been put on TRT with those natty numbers. Dr C is my doc and I can’t believe he did this. There’s got to be more to this story we don’t know.
His symptoms can’t be ignored and have gone on long enough to suggest a problem, sick care would turn this poor fellow away and offer him no help. They would say he’s normal and it’s all in his head.
I agree, something only with training and experience could see, that’s why I’m giving Defy Medical the benefit of the doubt.
A 40 year old man ranges are 6.8-21.5 so 17 may not seem all that bad, his ranges do to being younger are higher and cap at 26.5 pg/mL, he’s well below high normal and about midrange or lower if we take his age into account.
Range is 9.3-26.5, so 17 puts him nowhere close to high normal.
He has full blown symptoms. Having had gyno suggest hormonal imbalances taking place, his levels could be bouncing around all over the place labs don’t always show well. I’m sure Defy doctors are used to seeing this after seeing 20,000+ patients.
I don’t understand, why are so many people against me going on TRT? You’re all on it, and I’ve browsed the forums; you’re happier, you have more energy, you’re making progress in the gym, you’re waking up with erections, your libido improved, you feel like a man for once in your life. Why does it matter if i’m 28? There are guys on here that started at 20.
I’ve tried and exhausted all other options, and I think I should give TRT a try, I understand it’s a lifelong commitment and I understand that I may become infertile, but I don’t care for that.
I’m 6’0 180ish lbs, low body fat, I eat clean, I’ve had my testicles examined for abnormalities.
I haven’t had a morning erection in years, I’ve been tested for sleep apnea, I went to other doctors, they did full panels including thyroid, which all came back normal. When I haven’t had a morning erection since age 24, I feel more fatigued than I did, I burn out faster in the gym with a few workouts, but didn’t when I was younger, something is off.
Hell, here some more labs, some of you were saying that my morning test would be higher, but that’s not the case.
459 is low. 578 at 2:22 pm is not that low. As someone above said, there seems to be something missing.
I have symptoms at the levels you just shown, but that is about as high as I have tested. I think I tested at 470 (after a deload week), 379 (during a regular training week), 390 (again during a regular training week), and 530 (on HCG protocol).
I guess your lesson is not to start multiple threads as your old lab work showed more of a need for TRT, but your new blood work looks pretty good IMO, but things fluctuate. You are normally probably somewhere in-between.
