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What Do You LOVE About America?


Came across this link from another forum I frequent. It's long, but thought provoking.

So, Iâ??m driving into Anchorage this morning.

Along with the usual herd of jackasses who, despite living in Alaska still donâ??t seem to know how to drive in snow, one vehicle in particular caught my eye.

It was one of those enormous black pickup trucks, with the huge knobby tires and smoked glass windows and chrome roll bar complete with half a dozen giant chrome halogen lights and a ten foot high antenna whipping about in the slipstream and pipe organ-like exhaust pipes jutting up from behind the cab belching thick plumes of white diesel smoke like the twin contrails of a fighter jet on full afterburner.

The great steel beast wasnâ??t, in and of itself, unusual for the Glenn Highway at 6AM â?? or even unusual for Alaska in general, where giant manly trucks full of patriotic manly Viagra-fueled studs are quite common.

What caught my eye were the bumper stickers:
- Proud American emblazoned across a red, white, and true blue Captain America shield;
- In God I trust, In big government I fear. We must protect the country we love!;
- and my perennial favorite: I love my country, itâ??s the damned government I hate.

Now, to be perfectly honest, those bumper sticker slogans arenâ??t particularly unusual on the Glenn Highway at 6AM either â?? and normally, they wouldnâ??t be enough to rise above my â??What the hell?â?? threshold.

Not by themselves.

No, what caught my eye was the giant Confederate flag treatment in the back window.

Wait, what?

Proud American.

Confederate Flag.

Proud American.

Confederate Flag.

And suddenly Iâ??m the Old Spice guy: Liberals, look at your little sissy Prius. Look at it. Loser. Now look at this awesome RAM truck. Look at it! It gets five miles a gallon. Look at the patriotic slogans! Theyâ??re American. Now look at the Confederate Flag! The Confederacy. Itâ??s American. Now look back to the bumper. Back to the Flag! The bumper! Now Iâ??m a Confederate! Look again, Iâ??m an American! A Rebel! America, hell ya! Iâ??m on a horseâ?¦

Proud American. Confederate flag.

I wanted to pull up next him and roll down the window and ask, So, Just to make sure Iâ??m clear on this, youâ??re a proud patriotic American who loves the United States which is why you display the battle symbol of a long defunct political/military organization that directly and without equivocation attempted to destroy that self same country. Is that correct?

No, strike that. Thatâ??s wrong.

Thatâ??s really not what I wanted to ask him.

What I really wanted to ask is this: Proud American? Really? What is it exactly that youâ??re proud of? You say you love your country? You say you love the United States? Really? Which part? What is it that you love about it? Specifically, what exactly do you love about America?

Because, see, so far as I can tell, people like you seem to hate just about everything that makes the United States what it is.

You hate the President, you call him a Nazi and a socialist and communist and an enemy of America. Youâ??re embarrassed by him. You hate his big jug ears and his oh so white smile and his funny alien name. You hate his politics and his elitist education and his religion and his agenda and the way he speaks. You hate his wife and you hate his kids. Now, to be fair, you hated the last president too and in fact youâ??ve got a beef with damned near every president except for Good Ole George Washington and maybe Ronald Reagan. You couldnâ??t stand Carter or that pig, Clinton, Nixon was a crook, Johnson got us into Vietnam and the best thing that Kennedy ever did was to take a ride in that convertible â?? too bad he didnâ??t invite little brother Ted along. You hate the president all the way back to FDR. Hell, you even hate Teddy Roosevelt because he was nothing but a goddamned anti-American Progressive â?? you know thatâ??s true because Glenn Beck told you so (and donâ??t you hate it when people accuse you of getting your ideas from him? Like you canâ??t decide who to hate all by yourself).

You hate Congress. You hate the idea of a republic, of representative democracy, where Senators and Representative donâ??t do only what you want. Itâ??s we the people goddamnit. Theyâ??re all crooks. Theyâ??re all liars. Theyâ??re all corrupt greedy bastards. Theyâ??re all ineffective. You hate them all. They should all be thrown out â?? well, all of them except for your guy that is. Whatâ??s that? Oh you hate your guy too? Yeah, that figures.

You hate the courts, especially the Supreme Court. Oh how you hate that they wonâ??t let you make your hate the law of the land. You hate the whole damned liberal American legal system. You hate the lawyers, youâ??d like to line them all up and shoot them first. You hate that criminals get a legal defense, you hate that people canâ??t seem to see that theyâ??re guilty, just drop them into a hole and throw away the key. You hate those groups that keep using DNA to vacate death row convictions, the scumbags are guilty of something otherwise they wouldnâ??t be scumbags would they â?? but now they get to go free and collect a big fat settlement and, man, donâ??t you just hate that? Of course, you hate paying for prison too, and as long as weâ??re on the subject you hate that prisons are big country clubs nowadays, what the hell are those scumbags complaining about? You hate those damned judges, theyâ??re all liberal activists, everybody knows it. You hate the fact that we canâ??t just string people up in the town square any more, those were the good old days you bet. Youâ??d like to see more military tribunals, thatâ??s the ticket. Not like thatâ??s going to happen, and boy donâ??t you just hate that too?

In fact, you hate the whole goddamned Federal government. You really hate the â??unitedâ?? part of the United States. You say you love the Constitution, and you do â?? the 2nd Amendment part anyway â?? but you really hate the parts that let other people say what they like and worship religions different than yours and give the Federal government the power to regulate interstate commerce and award citizenship to brown skinned babies and give people you donâ??t like the same rights as you and make the government a secular organization instead of a Christian one â?? yeah, you really hate that part. You hate federal regulations and federal law and federal taxes. You hate the Fed and the fact that our money isnâ??t based on the gold standard. You hate that the government wonâ??t let you sell defective products and contaminated food and unsafe toys coated in lead paint or snake oil that purports to cure cancer â?? thatâ??s just bad for business. You hate the idea of anybody other than you getting affordable healthcare or retirement or a home loan. You hate Social Security, even though you yourself never bothered to save not one single penny towards your own retirement. You think the military is â??brokenâ?? and you hate those wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but you hate the idea of ending them even more because then the terrorists will â??winâ?? â?? and you hate that we havenâ??t yet declared war on Iran and North Korea and maybe even Libya because you hate those bastards too. In fact, you hate the idea of peace all together, goddamned sissy liberals, real Americans love the smell of napalm in the morning you betcha.
You hate the American political system. You hate political parties. You hate those filthy liberals, oh you hate them so much, thatâ??s a given. But you hate the Republicans too, you hate Progressives and Centrists and Moderates and thereâ??s nobody you hate more than those traitor RINOs.

You hate your neighbors, you do, you hate them. You hate the niggers and the spics and the chinks and the gooks and spooks and hajis. And, man, thereâ??s nothing you hate more than when they call you a racist and a bigot. You hate all those minorities with their whining about equal rights and political correctness and affirmative action. You hate that they get a free ride. You hate how they canâ??t take a joke. You hate the greedy Jews. You hate the terrorist Muslims. You hate the child-molesting Catholics. And you just goddamned hate those atheists. You hate anybody who wasnâ??t born again. You hate that guy with the long beard and the red turban who runs that store you hate downtown. You hate those people who canâ??t speak English without an accent. You hate having to dial 1 for English, my God how you hate that. You hate the fags in their little Speedos, demanding the right to wed just so they can mock your third marriage. You hate immigrants, and not just the illegal ones either. You hate the idea that those dirty, diseased sons of bitches come here to this country and take all the good jobs. You hate that your daughter is dating one of them. You hate that one of their kids can become president when there are plenty of good God fearinâ?? naturally born white men around â?? speaking of which, you really hate how white men have become the most persecuted minority in America, itâ??s shameful is what it is. You hate the poor, the lazy bastards should just lift themselves up, stop being poor. You hate the rich, the ones born with a golden spoon...............

click the link to read the rest


LIttle bit long winded, but decent overall.


From seeing a truck, bumper stickers, and a confederate flag? As very recently reported on the front page of yahoo news, Social security will go broke in 2033, three years earlier than previously thought. And that's just Soc Sec. Let's not even talk about Medicare. He might reserve his anger for that itty-bitty problem.


Anyways...Pancake breakfast at the Church for a neighbor child's medical bills. Fellow churchgoers who stood outside of the ruins of their church after a hurricane to provide food, water, blankets, batteries, transportation, and even cash, to whoever showed up in need. I love those little, fiercely independent, platoons.


North or South?

South America has cool jungles and nice beaches.

North America has some great mountain ranges and one cannot discount the desert south west.


I love that it will be ending soon.


It's home.


America the country?

It pretty much has everything.

The people?

There are so many people there who have not completely been brainwashed. I like them clinging to guns and religions types, it sure as hell beats the alternative.

The idea?

Well, it is of course dead now, but what a dream!

If I had any say in colonizing Mars I would sent the Declaration of Independence home first and an adapted US constitution second, with one or two clarifications which would include the request to shoot anyone who feels like twisting the words too much.


It's awesome and hopefully it will be my 2nd home in the near future.

  1. It is not the Soviet Union.
  2. I can go to the grocery store and find anything that I want as far as food goes.
  3. I never have to worry about the store not having toothpaste or soap or toilet paper.
  4. Nobody cares that I am in an interracial relationship (this is a much bigger deal in Russia).
  5. The master bedroom in my house is larger then the entire apartment that I grew up in with 4 other people.
  6. If I don't like something the government does I can complain about it and not disappear.
  7. I don't need the government's permission to travel to another city in America.
  8. I don't have to serve in the military if I don't want to.
  9. If I don't like where I live, I do not need permission to move, and it doesn't take years.
  10. The amount of stuff I can buy is not rationed.
  11. The rights guaranteed to me by the US Constitution. They may not seem like much to some who have lived here all their lives, but trust me they are very nice to have.

I could go on, but I think I have made my point: I love America, which is why I chose to live here.


Yep, its pretty fucking cool living in the US. Especially when compared to many of the alternatives.


In what other country can you find this level of innovation? It's unmatched!


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So...how many people actually read the whole article?


I did, and the other 2 parts.


<<< We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. - That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. <<<>>> We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. >>>


I just did, and I'm surprised nobody has posted about how that article is wrong, considering the majority of people in this subforum are republican.


There's nothing there to refute because it's an entirely ad hominem rant.


There it is.


I just want to hug you.