Zap Branigan wrote:
Let’s not confuse Israel not being blameless with Palestinian actions not being reprehensible. No country is totally in the right. I don’t see Israeli citizens bombing Palestinian buses with nominal if any condmenation from their leaders. They also gave back land. (and do not make statements about not being satisfied until Palestine is pushed into the othem cean). It’s as unrealistic to expect to give any more land up than they have as it is to expect us to remove ourselves from a couple States for the Indians to reclaim.
Exactly. Israel is not blameless, but they are not blowing up buses full of school kids.
No, they’re just shooting school kids who throw rocks at them. I wouldn’t say the two sides are morally equivalent, but Israel is not some beautiful desert democracy under attack from vicious, irrational terrorists. It’s an appartheid state when it comes down to it, and one that takes us (America) to the cleaners ALL the time. They deserve their country, I’m not saying otherwise, but unless they compromise and give the Palestinians a viable state, they’re gonna be on the losing end of this one in time.[/quote]
An excellent post on an interesting thread. I was brought up, by parents, church, and media, to believe Israel were the good guys, fighting back the Arab hordes, losing innocents to suicide bombers, in general, the victims.
The more I learn about the Palestinians, the more I came to understand their cause. I will never agree with the actions of Hamas and Hezbollah, but did you know that for every Israeli killed by Palestinian terrorism, 5 Palestinians are killed by the Israeli army? Are not those actions also terrorism? Or, because they are carried out by tanks and helicopters, legitimate acts of defense?
More questions spring to mind. Let’s say the Israeli authorites arrest and torture 10 Palestinians. If one of those Palestinians was a member of Hamas, organising a suicide bombing, and that suicide bombing was stopped, was that torture justified?
Did you know that if a Palestinian does a suicide bombing, the Israeli army will demolish the home of that person’s family? I used to think that this was fair. But what if the family were opposed to the actions commited by their family member? Or were ignorant of it?
If a camp was suspected of harboring potential terrorists, the Israeli army would crush it to the ground? Is this the best way to deal with that situation?
Don’t get me wrong. I am no apologist for Palestinian terrorism. I’m saddened by the suicide bombings, happy when Israel capture or kill known terrorists, but I don’t see how Israel can claim the moral high ground when they kill 4 or 5 times as many and there is no way all those are terrorists.
The only fair solution is for Palestine to be awarded statehood, pronto. They have as much right to existence as Israel. Of course, neither side will be happy with whatever territory they get, there may be border skirmishes or even war, but the present situation is untenable.