I need to start dipping into the beginners forum more often
You were⊠ten pounds heavier⊠probably not all LBM either, so say 5lbs heavierâŠ
at this point youâre posts indicate a facet of instability, you DONâT need steroids, you need a solid training regime
its been 3 days⊠obviously hes not getting the desired information he wants.
My gut has been telling me he doesnât want to hear about any possible issue regarding diet or lifting.
WHAT THE FUCK EVER⊠honestly itâs hard not to think that your just making up a sob story so that someone will give you the green light to run gearâŠ
Pretty much seems like you have side step any question regarding diet or what your program consisted of. As if in doing so would poke holes in the narrative your trying to establish.
You mentioned in your other thread your diet wasnât good due to finance reasons.
But as someone pointed out you some how you can afford to buy gear if you needed .
I have through periods on and off âsufferedâ from something I would call similar to whatever this CFS shit is, and my solution has always been to go to the gym and fucking melt all the shit anyway. It remains undiagnosed, because it is probably just a low level form of stress. Ironically, training and over-training can contribute to it, because it is largely neurological. Be aware of it, accept it, do what you can to combat it, and overcome it. Sheesh, OP.
Lol I have a version of CFS itâs called working a full time job nearing 50 with adult issues. Oddly it hasnât been diagnosed either if you know what Iâm saying. I guess itâs hard for me to be sympathetic towards the young man.
Yuuuuuuup!
Trust me CFS is no joke itâs real and I have it likely do to overtraining syndrome I donât wish CFS upon my worst enemie it awful. If you had the same tyou wouldnât be able to gain alot of muscle mass like I cant .
I am also an undiagnosed grown up.
Why do people give themselves bad conditions if they are going to self-diagnose?
I have an undiagnosed MSTR gene deficiency.
Thank you for confirming what I suspected.
I have been diagnosed with a big stick up my ass at my last exam. Would explain allot.
Alright⊠so what exactly makes you think you need gear?
Youâre logic is flawed, if you think youâve got CFS, go to a specialist⊠if you think youâve got a hormonal deficiency, get some labs pulled
Playing a guessing game of âoh I have this and that, anabolic steroids are certainly the answerâ is bullshit⊠furthermore, as someone who actually has fibromyalgia (diagnosed) and possibly CFS (doctor specified I MIGHT have this, however I was also hypogonadal at the time⊠which would explain quite a bit)
The fatigue/lack of energy associated with fibromyalgia does improve with androgen therapy (particuarly pertaining to mildly supraphysiologic doses⊠like say 1.5-2x what a man would regularly produce) but the improvement IS MARGINAL, itâs no ânight and day cureâ, and if youâre a lazy guy who canât bring himself to train without steroids, Iâm sorry⊠but CFS or not anabolics probably wonât suddenly make you able to train
Stop looking for excuses to run gear, if youâre aware of the risks associated with youâre situation (running gear) which I can tell you that you most certainly ARENâT⊠then you could theoretically run gear (even though itâs a stupid decision to make in my opinion)
However
- you donât train properly
- you probably donât know how to diet
- you make excuses such as âI have CFS even though Iâve never been diagnosedâ
- you think gear is the only answer
This is some incredibly retarded ideology to harbour, stop putting all youâre money into the idea of gear⊠if you think somethingâs wrong, see a fucking doctor, a pain specialist/specialist regarding CFS⊠have you ever had testing to rule out autoimmune conditions⊠what about thyroid, adrenals etc⊠could be CFS⊠could also be hormonally/neurologically mediated⊠think rationally before making stupid decisions my man
Fyi hes already stated already heâs seen a specialist and had test run. No diagnoses was made for it.
So no diagnosisâs were made after seeing a specialist?
If he really thinks somethingâs wrong he should get a second opinion⊠otherwise itâs probably nothing
When I had hypogonadism it was severe enough I was actually diagnosed by my GP before seeing a specialist (to get injectable test here itâs incredibly difficult, probably the hardest developed country in the world⊠hence people tend to turn to the black market for TRT at astounding rates if they canât afford private specialists/healthcare)
I never went private for my treatment and was thus stuck on a terrible regime of like 250mg e3w for 3-5 months or so
Eventually I was given a dose high enough to get me to like⊠600ng/dl, even then the doc is very cautious regarding my hematocrit etc⊠which doesnât raise, as a matter of fact Iâm anaemic (iron deficiency anaemia stemming from haemorrhoids which donât close up because I like deadliftingâŠ) valslva manouver keeps them coming⊠had rubber band ligation, now I have to have a more invasive procedure but I keep pushing it back because I donât want to go under⊠I get cripplingly anxious at hospitals before getting put under⊠I keep thinking âwhat if I never wake upâ
Iâm just jumping into this thread.
To be clear, have you been diagnosed with this, or are you just saying it?
EDIT: Because if you donât have a diagnosis, you are absolutely full of shit, and you are absolutely unqualified to make such a diagnosis. Spare us the fucking sob stories, do you have any idea how many people come onto this forum with essentially the same stories? At least youâre not looking into clavicle lengthening surgery. If you go THAT route, Iâve been told Iâm the guy to talk to.
Did the guy end up actually getting that retarded surgery done?
If I recall correctly he had klinefelters syndrome⊠meaning he needed trt + an optimal training regime, not surgery
Testicular function is abysmal in those with klinefelters syndrome, they all have primary hypogonadism
I honestly donât remember if that was the same guy. And as far as Iâm aware, he did not get the surgery.
This is beautiful.
Prostate? Been there. Maybe visit a smaller doctor?
Or at least a less enthusiastic one
You canât study for a prostate exam, but boy can you cram.