Nothing beats owning a business, but in case you can’t do that. Become a Junior Executive, and if you can’t do that, Sales Rep is the best. Yes, overseas people hawking life insurance is cool to a point, but most people do not care to listen to an Indian during the middle of supper.
You just need a burning desire to be successful, especially now.
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
I didn’t know harems had paying customers.[/quote]
Management is hired to manage the workers.
The cultures that currently have the money also have the harems,
But…
They tend to be in dry, sandy places.
There may be fringe benefits,
But…
The managers tend to be lacking in the equipment needed to enjoy such fringe benefits.[/quote]
Ouch!
[quote]paulypaul wrote:
I used to work in financial sales a couple years ago. I liked it back then but got laid off. I finally got a new one after a year (same type), but I am really not liking it as much at all. Different company culture too, I want to leave the industry behind. So any thoughts on what the best fields of the future are, given the current economy and political climate? Guess we still can’t get paid to work out lol.[/quote]
What’s your educational background Paul and how old are you?
[quote]paulypaul wrote:
I used to work in financial sales a couple years ago. I liked it back then but got laid off. I finally got a new one after a year (same type), but I am really not liking it as much at all. Different company culture too, I want to leave the industry behind. So any thoughts on what the best fields of the future are, given the current economy and political climate? Guess we still can’t get paid to work out lol.[/quote]
Since the current system is designed to convert America from a country dominated by private business to one administered as a National Socialist state, it would probably be smarter to bet on this trend continuing. You should consider applying for a commission or a Federal job.
Freedom is on the wane and what little comfort can be had out of all of this will be found in being on the inside of the all-powerful State. They are just waiting to collapse the economy (without being too obvious about it, to piss off the cattle) so that, in the words of Rahm Immanuel (a dual citizen with Israel): “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”
Welcome to the New America.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]paulypaul wrote:
I used to work in financial sales a couple years ago. I liked it back then but got laid off. I finally got a new one after a year (same type), but I am really not liking it as much at all. Different company culture too, I want to leave the industry behind. So any thoughts on what the best fields of the future are, given the current economy and political climate? Guess we still can’t get paid to work out lol.[/quote]
Since the current system is designed to convert America from a country dominated by private business to one administered as a National Socialist state, it would probably be smarter to bet on this trend continuing. You should consider applying for a commission or a Federal job.
Freedom is on the wane and what little comfort can be had out of all of this will be found in being on the inside of the all-powerful State. They are just waiting to collapse the economy (without being too obvious about it, to piss off the cattle) so that, in the words of Rahm Immanuel (a dual citizen with Israel): “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”
Welcome to the New America.
[/quote]
This is a bad idea. I always thought that if I can get in with the government then I’d have it made with regards to inflation adjusted salaries and job security. But after landing a couple internships (which paid quite well) I began to depise the civil service. I had professionals (engineers, lawyers, managers) that told me to get out while I can, even though they probably all made over 100k a year working the same 33 hours a week. Basically within the government culture, especially in the major centers, there was definitely a “the squeeky wheel gets replaced mentality”. Being average is encouraged by all, anyone caught rocking the boat will be “transferred”.
Sure, the private industry will be more unpredictable, in terms of job security, but it’s much more stimulating for the individual. It keeps you from becoming complacent and zombie-like.
[quote]What’s your educational background Paul and how old are you?
[/quote]
Well, it’s not the most inspiring of statistics. My degree is communications and I first worked for a supplement company for 3 and a half years. I know the stuff quite easily, but the pay was lousy. They eventually moved and I got laid off. Eventually got into insurance/finance and have been a customer service rep for life ins, 401k back-up plan manager and internal wholesaler. This current gig is for wholesaling too although it starts off as sales support for who knows how long. I agree with Brother Chris (always gives good advice) that sales rep is good if you’ve got it in you, but i don’t think it’s in me. I’m 38, so I don’t have all the time in the world to figure things out. Sad I know. It is true, $ aren’t everything. Very important, but you have to at least kind of like what you are doing.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
To add to the above: the idea that somehow the “professions” are superior in any way (paywise, intellect-wise, prestige-wise) is a huge lie that, unfortunately, too many discover way too late.
[/quote]
Very true. People tend to get snobbish at the blue collar jobs, but they do often pay better.
[quote]power_bulker wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]paulypaul wrote:
I used to work in financial sales a couple years ago. I liked it back then but got laid off. I finally got a new one after a year (same type), but I am really not liking it as much at all. Different company culture too, I want to leave the industry behind. So any thoughts on what the best fields of the future are, given the current economy and political climate? Guess we still can’t get paid to work out lol.[/quote]
Since the current system is designed to convert America from a country dominated by private business to one administered as a National Socialist state, it would probably be smarter to bet on this trend continuing. You should consider applying for a commission or a Federal job.
Freedom is on the wane and what little comfort can be had out of all of this will be found in being on the inside of the all-powerful State. They are just waiting to collapse the economy (without being too obvious about it, to piss off the cattle) so that, in the words of Rahm Immanuel (a dual citizen with Israel): “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”
Welcome to the New America.
[/quote]
This is a bad idea. I always thought that if I can get in with the government then I’d have it made with regards to inflation adjusted salaries and job security. But after landing a couple internships (which paid quite well) I began to depise the civil service. I had professionals (engineers, lawyers, managers) that told me to get out while I can, even though they probably all made over 100k a year working the same 33 hours a week. Basically within the government culture, especially in the major centers, there was definitely a “the squeeky wheel gets replaced mentality”. Being average is encouraged by all, anyone caught rocking the boat will be “transferred”.
Sure, the private industry will be more unpredictable, in terms of job security, but it’s much more stimulating for the individual. It keeps you from becoming complacent and zombie-like.
[/quote]
Yes, but one has to eat. The government is absorbing the private sector and those on the inside first have all the advantages; think of it as joining the NSDAP (Nazis) before 1923. You’d be an ‘alter Kampfer’ and would be above the law and all the starving rabble.
[quote]paulypaul wrote:
[quote]What’s your educational background Paul and how old are you?
[/quote]
Well, it’s not the most inspiring of statistics. My degree is communications and I first worked for a supplement company for 3 and a half years. I know the stuff quite easily, but the pay was lousy. They eventually moved and I got laid off. Eventually got into insurance/finance and have been a customer service rep for life ins, 401k back-up plan manager and internal wholesaler. This current gig is for wholesaling too although it starts off as sales support for who knows how long. I agree with Brother Chris (always gives good advice) that sales rep is good if you’ve got it in you, but i don’t think it’s in me. I’m 38, so I don’t have all the time in the world to figure things out. Sad I know. It is true, $ aren’t everything. Very important, but you have to at least kind of like what you are doing.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
To add to the above: the idea that somehow the “professions” are superior in any way (paywise, intellect-wise, prestige-wise) is a huge lie that, unfortunately, too many discover way too late.
[/quote]
Very true. People tend to get snobbish at the blue collar jobs, but they do often pay better.[/quote]
You’re too old now for a military career, except maybe joining the National Guard. As states and cities collapse and can’t afford cops, the Guard will get more and more jobs, such as at food riots and rioting outside of the closed banks.
orthopedic surgery
[quote]paulypaul wrote:
[quote]What’s your educational background Paul and how old are you?
[/quote]
Well, it’s not the most inspiring of statistics. My degree is communications and I first worked for a supplement company for 3 and a half years. I know the stuff quite easily, but the pay was lousy. They eventually moved and I got laid off. Eventually got into insurance/finance and have been a customer service rep for life ins, 401k back-up plan manager and internal wholesaler. This current gig is for wholesaling too although it starts off as sales support for who knows how long. I agree with Brother Chris (always gives good advice) that sales rep is good if you’ve got it in you, but i don’t think it’s in me. I’m 38, so I don’t have all the time in the world to figure things out. Sad I know. It is true, $ aren’t everything. Very important, but you have to at least kind of like what you are doing.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
To add to the above: the idea that somehow the “professions” are superior in any way (paywise, intellect-wise, prestige-wise) is a huge lie that, unfortunately, too many discover way too late.
[/quote]
Very true. People tend to get snobbish at the blue collar jobs, but they do often pay better.[/quote]
Thanks for the acknowledgment, however do not be scared to take a chance. I would say, figure out what your goal in life is (i.e. retire at 55 with dividends of 10k a month @ 4 Million in assets), start moving towards that direction and look for ways to accomplish that goal in something you enjoy. Remember as well everyone is in sales, you are always trying to sell your product (actual product, or service) at every turn.
Also, leaders move forward faster than the follower, the followers wait until the leader makes a move, but the leader usually reaps the majority of the rewards.
LOL! You guys are all assuming that today’s conditions will continue into the future. Have ANY of you read Google News or anything similar? We are trillions in debt, interest rates are near zero, and the Fed has to print/borrow trillions just to keep the cattle from stampeding.
"Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan is warning President Barack Obama about civil unrest.’
http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=40331
(chicago Public Radio)
Most of you will be beggars in a few years, or looters.
Growing field: statistics.
Here, I actually know what I’m talking about. The world is becoming more quantitative. Marketing, government and politics, medicine for sure, intelligence, online data and social networks, communications. It’s all, “Here’s this vast quantity of data, now how do we interpret it?” And we’re getting more sophisticated and powerful at that at a shocking rate. I’m betting on statistician as the job of the future.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
LOL! You guys are all assuming that today’s conditions will continue into the future. Have ANY of you read Google News or anything similar? We are trillions in debt, interest rates are near zero, and the Fed has to print/borrow trillions just to keep the cattle from stampeding.
"Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan is warning President Barack Obama about civil unrest.’
http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=40331
(chicago Public Radio)
Most of you will be beggars in a few years, or looters.[/quote]
You forget that people only follow the government because they place authority on the State, once they realise they have had enough following. The government is powerless.
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
Growing field: statistics.
Here, I actually know what I’m talking about. The world is becoming more quantitative. Marketing, government and politics, medicine for sure, intelligence, online data and social networks, communications. It’s all, “Here’s this vast quantity of data, now how do we interpret it?” And we’re getting more sophisticated and powerful at that at a shocking rate. I’m betting on statistician as the job of the future.[/quote]
I would say yes to a point, statistics are important, but if Occam’s Razor has any relevance to this issue, statistics will be pushed back to where they have been. Most things in the world cannot be explained sufficiently with statistics. However, I do think that in the future statistics will grow and then eventually be nil when they figure out it doesn’t work for everything. People are relying on hard evidence instead of logic and intuition.
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
Growing field: statistics.
Here, I actually know what I’m talking about. The world is becoming more quantitative. Marketing, government and politics, medicine for sure, intelligence, online data and social networks, communications. It’s all, “Here’s this vast quantity of data, now how do we interpret it?” And we’re getting more sophisticated and powerful at that at a shocking rate. I’m betting on statistician as the job of the future.[/quote]
Or, one could teach AP Stats next year. 
Been a long time since I taught this class and YES the technology available and need is expanding exponentially. A text from 5 years ago is kind of okay for a high school introductory course but a lot will be outdated. Then again, z-scores are z-scores…
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
Growing field: statistics.
Here, I actually know what I’m talking about. The world is becoming more quantitative. Marketing, government and politics, medicine for sure, intelligence, online data and social networks, communications. It’s all, “Here’s this vast quantity of data, now how do we interpret it?” And we’re getting more sophisticated and powerful at that at a shocking rate. I’m betting on statistician as the job of the future.[/quote]
Going from this, studying to be an actuary could potentially be a great career. Incredibly difficult at times, with regards to the examination process, but senior fellows make upwards of 120K a year. Although, it’s one of those majors for people who can do math in their sleep.
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
Growing field: statistics.
Here, I actually know what I’m talking about. The world is becoming more quantitative. Marketing, government and politics, medicine for sure, intelligence, online data and social networks, communications. It’s all, “Here’s this vast quantity of data, now how do we interpret it?” And we’re getting more sophisticated and powerful at that at a shocking rate. I’m betting on statistician as the job of the future.[/quote]
I agree with this. There’s pretty cool jobs in Business Intelligence that are popping up. I believe most of these jobs are staying in the states.
HH - have you always been such a doom and gloomer? I’m not saying your position is with or without merit, but have you always thought this way?
Air Traffic Control. If you can hack it (most can) there are a lot of great opportunities out there.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
HH - have you always been such a doom and gloomer? I’m not saying your position is with or without merit, but have you always thought this way?[/quote]
That’s an excellent question. My mother died when I was 4 and lawyers cheated my dad out of her pension. My father landed at Omaha and went all across Europe, then was turned down 7 times by our wonderful government for SS disability despite being crushed by a bus. My fiance died 2 days before her 24th birthday of a massive heart attack. So perhaps I do have a dimmer view of life than most, though lots of people had it way worse than me.
However, in the words of Benjamin Franklin: I always expect the worse. If it doesn’t happen then I am pleasantly surprised. 