In about one week, you have done 39 sets of pressing (all on a horizontal plane might I add), 13 sets of humeral adduction (not even counting your pressing here), and ZERO sets of scapular retraction or depression.
Do you honestly not understand it yet? Your bench sucks because you can’t stabilize your scapulae. You can’t stabilize your scapulae because you have muscle imbalances in the shoulder girdle. You have muscle imbalances in the shoulder girdle because your training is imbalanced. More pressing won’t help your bench. It won’t help anything at all, unless your ultimate goal is an injury.
Just do some goddamn seated cable rows with strict form, and some scapular “wall slides”.
I’m really trying to help you dankid. If you’re SO set on training Shieko that you can’t realize that training bench twice in a workout for nine total sets (and then adding seven sets of push-ups and flies on top of it) is detrimental to someone like you who has shoulder issues, then you are just simply a moron.
Honestly dankid. Just because a good number of people have had success with Shieko and Westside does NOT mean that copying their methods will lead to results. You have to assess YOUR OWN situation.
In fact, maybe I’ll just change my name to Louie Simmons. That’s probably the only way to get you to listen to anything.[/quote]
LOLZ. First off, im running sheiko for the most part the way it is supposed to be. THERE IS NOT PULLING. Well actually, deadlifting is pulling, so there is pulling. And I typically work pulling A LOT more than I work pressing. This is a first for me. My strength in pullups and rows is much higher than my strength in pressing. Outside of this program, I do a TON of facepulls, and seated DB cleans. My “injuries” are not the result of imbalances, they are the result of playing baseball since I was five and being a pitcher, putting too much focus on getting stronger at DB snatches (that was a mistake) and having to sit a lot for school. Ive adressed most of these problems teh best I can. The reason Im weak at bench, is because I spent too much time thinking that I SHOULDN’T bench, and mainly only did pushups and DB bench. Now that im back to barbell benching and being smart about things, my strength is going up and Im having very little problems.
I have to avoid too much overhead work and heavier trap work, but am getting by just fine, on a pretty tough program.
So with all do respect, Im gonna disagree with you on every point youve made. I used to agree with you, but I have seen that a ton of pulling work just isn’t necessary. The sheiko way makes sense. If you develop the strength to bench 400lbs and deadlift 600lbs doesn’t it stand to reason that you are going to have strong lats, traps, back etc? And when im done with this program, i’ll probably do westsides method of “lat” work. I’ll be working horizontal rows, or facepulls 3-4 times per week, but with just a few sets, and not putting too much effort into it. It works.
Just because the Gurus, and “experts” say everyone should be doing a ton of pulling doesn’t mean they are correct.