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Westside Method and 5v5 Variations


#1

Firstly - Who has done both and found one better over the other to increasing their main lifts?

Secondly - With Westside - the accessory exercises, tris, backs, delts and etc after your ME effort and DE method, do you guys use ramping weights or stick with the same weight for all 3-4 sets per exercise or as many as you may do. And if you have tried both, which one worked better for you hypertrophy wise and strength wise


#2

Started with 5x5. Made gains but didnt like how there wasnt enough accessory work to address my huge weaknesses (upper back, hamstrings/glutes, triceps, etc). 5x5 will make you stronger by the volume and frequency of the lifts, but sometimes the answer to a bigger squat isnt necessarily just to keep squatting, addressing the weak spot directly may be better.

Westside works. No other way to put it. But it isnt a miracle program, read Book of Methods and youll understand how crucial proper planning is. Personally, I ran it for a few months and it just pissed me off and I didnt make any gains, then I started training with several experienced powerlifters and my lifts took off.

With 5x5, you download a spreadsheet, plug in some 1 rms and go on autodrive. Westside isnt as easy.


#3

It can take a lot of time to figure out your weaknesses and what exercises address them best. Especially if you train alone. I've been on it a year and I'm just now figuring out what's ideal for me.


#4

Holy shit dude just pick a program already.


#5

i am doing a program


#6

I didn't say do a program, I said pick a program. Stop worrying about finding the ultimate program and just pick one and stick with it for a few years.


#7

Yea i know im doing one atm and have been for the past 6-7 months. But i want another one. i like doing research before starting a program and if im gonna do it for a while might aswell look into it more


#8

So why not make a single thread called "Zackysmith - a billion questions about every program known to man kind that may have some benefit to strength" instead of making tons and tons of threads with mostly the same questions.


#9

cause i dont think of all the questions at the same time do i? no....dud


#10

Just post in the thread everytime a new question pops up.


#11

Agreed. Dumb questions are fine but a new thread for each question is just annoying and anyone who has good advice will catch on and just not reply to them anymore.