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“Much of this technology was developed in U.S. research labs, but there are fewer social and regulatory obstacles to implementing them in Korea,” said Mr. Townsend [a research director at the Institute for the Future in Palo Alto, California], who consulted on Seoul’s own U-city plan, known as Digital Media City. “There is an historical expectation of less privacy. Korea is willing to put off the hard questions to take the early lead and set standards.”

http://www.oldthinkernews.com/Articles/oldthinker%20news/orwellian_ubiquitous_computing.htm

Th era of privacy and dignity is ending.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Th era of privacy and dignity is ending.
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When did it begin?

Dignity is reserved for the rich, who can afford to buy privacy. It’s the prod for the rest of us!

:stuck_out_tongue:

It is indeed scary. But as long as “the sheep” will value (the illusion of?) security over freedom, this trend will continue.

To be frank, I have more trouble with the concept of “thought crime” and indefinite detention without charges than I am about cameras and RFIDs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7422595.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7425280.stm

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:

Th era of privacy and dignity is ending.

When did it begin?[/quote]

When Aristotle told Plato he was full of horse doo-doo.

[quote]lixy wrote:
It is indeed scary. But as long as “the sheep” will value (the illusion of?) security over freedom, this trend will continue.

To be frank, I have more trouble with the concept of “thought crime” and indefinite detention without charges than I am about cameras and RFIDs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7422595.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7425280.stm[/quote]

From the first link: 'He said: "This is a welcome announcement which makes a clear statement that drawings or computer-generated images of child abuse are as unacceptable as a photograph.

“It adds to the range of measures to help ensure the safeguarding of children and young people.” ’

Does someone have an inherent right to draw pictures of some young kid being raped or sodomized? Then transmit it over the Web? While my emotions are revolted by such a thing, my reason tells me that it is within someone’s rights. Man, this privacy thing is a can of worms!

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:

Th era of privacy and dignity is ending.

When did it begin?

When Aristotle told Plato he was full of horse doo-doo.

[/quote]

It didn’t last long.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
lixy wrote:
It is indeed scary. But as long as “the sheep” will value (the illusion of?) security over freedom, this trend will continue.

To be frank, I have more trouble with the concept of “thought crime” and indefinite detention without charges than I am about cameras and RFIDs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7422595.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7425280.stm

From the first link: 'He said: "This is a welcome announcement which makes a clear statement that drawings or computer-generated images of child abuse are as unacceptable as a photograph.

“It adds to the range of measures to help ensure the safeguarding of children and young people.” ’

Does someone have an inherent right to draw pictures of some young kid being raped or sodomized? Then transmit it over the Web? While my emotions are revolted by such a thing, my reason tells me that it is within someone’s rights. Man, this privacy thing is a can of worms!
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This has nothing to do with privacy. It’s about the right to fantasize that is being trampled. I am repulsed by the very idea of anyone creating or watching cartoons of schoolgirls being raped, but if you take that right away, it’ll then be violent video games. And then the “kill the cops” rap lyrics. And then the people uploading video on YouTube. And so on and so forth.

It is, for all intents and purposes, prosecution of a thought crime. The law assumes that anyone who drew an erotic picture of a kid will act on those feelings and molest a child. For all flack Sweden catches about its “big government”, freedoms are as healthy as they come here. No false positives in airports. No arbitrary detention. No CD-sniffing dogs. And most certainly, no rules that cripple creativity. As for the Arab world that we all relentlessly slam, it is at least moving in the right direction. This British ruling, if it passes, is a leap backwards and the open door to all sorts of abuse.

Isn’t it interesting that this technology was taken to Korea because the people there are used to despotism? The backers of this can then show how we have ‘nothing to fear’, as it didn’t alarm any Koreans?

How would this go over in Morocco?

[quote]This has nothing to do with privacy. It’s about the right to fantasize that is being trampled. I am repulsed by the very idea of anyone creating or watching cartoons of schoolgirls being raped, but if you take that right away, it’ll then be violent video games. And then the “kill the cops” rap lyrics. And then the people uploading video on YouTube. And so on and so forth.
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How about the right to draw a picture of Mohammed or get a Swatika tatoo?

Should those be curtailed?

[quote]Guerrero wrote:
This has nothing to do with privacy. It’s about the right to fantasize that is being trampled. I am repulsed by the very idea of anyone creating or watching cartoons of schoolgirls being raped, but if you take that right away, it’ll then be violent video games. And then the “kill the cops” rap lyrics. And then the people uploading video on YouTube. And so on and so forth.

How about the right to draw a picture of Mohammed or get a Swatika tatoo?

Should those be curtailed?[/quote]

Of course not!

Naomi Klein wrote an excellent article for Rolling Stone magazine about what American companies’ involvement in the Chinese Golden Shield.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20797485/chinas_allseeing_eye/print

A must read!

[quote]lixy wrote:
Naomi Klein wrote an excellent article for Rolling Stone magazine about what American companies’ involvement in the Chinese Golden Shield.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20797485/chinas_allseeing_eye/print

A must read![/quote]

That was a good read. Thanks Lixy!

We had to expect this in our future. People simply cannot live together in peace. So, it has to be imposed from ‘above’.