Weight vs Volume for Upper Chest?

Hi CT,

I have a problem where I don’t feel my upper chest with heavy weights. Doing the sets with less weight gives me a good pump.

Should I go for a high volume “upper chest” specialization program ? I mention high volume because I think I don"t have a good mind muscle connection with my upper chest. Currently I am doing twice a week split. I do “Incline Barbell”, “Incline dumbbell” & “incline flys”. The problem is I feel my upper chest with lower weights and the work is mostly like pump work with no real visible results. I do 4x8 for all these exercises. I can go heavier but I guess it would be of no use. With light weights the chest pops out in 2-3 sets but I don’t see any visible growth once the pump subsides.

Please suggest.

Thanks.

[quote]abhi152 wrote:
Hi CT,

I have a problem where I donâ??t feel my upper chest with heavy weights. Doing the sets with less weight gives me a good pump.

Should I go for a high volume â??upper chestâ?? specialization program ? I mention high volume because I think I donâ??t have a good mind muscle connection with my upper chest. Currently I am doing twice a week split. I do â??Incline Barbellâ??, â??Incline dumbbellâ?? & â??incline flysâ??. The problem is I feel my upper chest with lower weights and the work is mostly like pump work with no real visible results. I do 4x8 for all these exercises. I can go heavier but I guess it would be of no use. With light weights the chest pops out in 2-3 sets but I don’t see any visible growth once the pump subsides.

Please suggest.

Thanks.
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  1. It’s not like growth in a small region can occur at rates that make visible changes within weeks… correcting a lagging area takes a lot of time.

  2. The upper chest (clavicular portion of the pectoral) is probably one of the hardest muscle to bring up. if you have decent shoulders the front deltoid will take over as soon as you use an incline and if you use a flat exercise, the rest of the pec (sternal portion of the pectoral) will take over.

Incline work, can work to an extent, but rarely by itself if the upper chest is lagging behind the shoulders.

Here are some suggestions:

  1. You must learn to feel and activate your upper chest. I suggest doing INCLINE squeeze presses. Here is a video that includes the squeeze press. It’s the flat version, but do it on an incline (slight incline).

Note that the goal is NOT to use a lot of weight on this exercise. The goal is to SQUEEZE the dumbbells hard against each other during the push and go slow. Feel the pec cramp.

Do this exercise EVERY DAY. It doesn’t cause muscle damage so don’t worry, you wont overtrain the muscle. But you will learn to maximally recruit the upper chest. Really focus on squeezing with the upper chest. 3 sets of 8-10 reps at the end of every single workout. for at least 3 weeks. After that you should have a much much greater capacity to involve the upper chest maximally in other movements.

  1. Use REVERSE GRIP bench press in the Smith machine (I’m not a huge Smith machine guy but for this exercise it works better). (1) use a fairly wide grip (2) start the bar in line with the collar bone (3) use a reverse grip (4) use a slight incline… (5) focus on squeezing at the top and lower the bar in 5 seconds per rep… 6-8 reps.

  2. Include an upper chest day in your weak (on top of your regular chest day)… start with 3 sets of squeeze press to activate the mind-muscle connection, move on the the reverse-grip bench as mentioned for 3-4 sets. THEN do incline DB presses and go heavier. You will NOT be able to use as much weight as normal because the chest will be fatigued. That’s fine, we put it 3rd to learn to integrate the upper chest in the movement. Don’t focus on the squeeze, just do the exercise. 5 sets of 5. And finish by cable cross overs with the pulley set in line with the shoulders and doing the exercises keeping the arms parallel to the floor (your hands will be in front of your mouth at the peak contraction). 3 sets of 12-15.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]abhi152 wrote:
Hi CT,

I have a problem where I don�¢??t feel my upper chest with heavy weights. Doing the sets with less weight gives me a good pump.

Should I go for a high volume Ã?¢??upper chestÃ?¢?? specialization program ? I mention high volume because I think I donÃ?¢??t have a good mind muscle connection with my upper chest. Currently I am doing twice a week split. I do Ã?¢??Incline BarbellÃ?¢??, Ã?¢??Incline dumbbellÃ?¢?? & Ã?¢??incline flysÃ?¢??. The problem is I feel my upper chest with lower weights and the work is mostly like pump work with no real visible results. I do 4x8 for all these exercises. I can go heavier but I guess it would be of no use. With light weights the chest pops out in 2-3 sets but I don’t see any visible growth once the pump subsides.

Please suggest.

Thanks.
[/quote]

  1. It’s not like growth in a small region can occur at rates that make visible changes within weeks… correcting a lagging area takes a lot of time.

  2. The upper chest (clavicular portion of the pectoral) is probably one of the hardest muscle to bring up. if you have decent shoulders the front deltoid will take over as soon as you use an incline and if you use a flat exercise, the rest of the pec (sternal portion of the pectoral) will take over.

Incline work, can work to an extent, but rarely by itself if the upper chest is lagging behind the shoulders.

Here are some suggestions:

  1. You must learn to feel and activate your upper chest. I suggest doing INCLINE squeeze presses. Here is a video that includes the squeeze press. It’s the flat version, but do it on an incline (slight incline).

Note that the goal is NOT to use a lot of weight on this exercise. The goal is to SQUEEZE the dumbbells hard against each other during the push and go slow. Feel the pec cramp.

Do this exercise EVERY DAY. It doesn’t cause muscle damage so don’t worry, you wont overtrain the muscle. But you will learn to maximally recruit the upper chest. Really focus on squeezing with the upper chest. 3 sets of 8-10 reps at the end of every single workout. for at least 3 weeks. After that you should have a much much greater capacity to involve the upper chest maximally in other movements.

  1. Use REVERSE GRIP bench press in the Smith machine (I’m not a huge Smith machine guy but for this exercise it works better). (1) use a fairly wide grip (2) start the bar in line with the collar bone (3) use a reverse grip (4) use a slight incline… (5) focus on squeezing at the top and lower the bar in 5 seconds per rep… 6-8 reps.

  2. Include an upper chest day in your weak (on top of your regular chest day)… start with 3 sets of squeeze press to activate the mind-muscle connection, move on the the reverse-grip bench as mentioned for 3-4 sets. THEN do incline DB presses and go heavier. You will NOT be able to use as much weight as normal because the chest will be fatigued. That’s fine, we put it 3rd to learn to integrate the upper chest in the movement. Don’t focus on the squeeze, just do the exercise. 5 sets of 5. And finish by cable cross overs with the pulley set in line with the shoulders and doing the exercises keeping the arms parallel to the floor (your hands will be in front of your mouth at the peak contraction). 3 sets of 12-15.
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I’ve always had difficulties with my upper chest and even after years of specialization it still isn’t as full as I would like. Thanks for the above suggestions CT.

Thank You CT.

Hi CT,

I have tried the techniques you have mentioned and I can’t thank you enough. I can already feel as if my chest muscles want to explode all the time. I am not sure as to what is working best but I suppose the squeeze press you mentioned is the most critical player here.

Thanks a Ton.

[quote]abhi152 wrote:
Hi CT,

I have tried the techniques you have mentioned and I can’t thank you enough. I can already feel as if my chest muscles want to explode all the time. I am not sure as to what is working best but I suppose the squeeze press you mentioned is the most critical player here.

Thanks a Ton.[/quote]

The squeeze press is best to develop mind-muscle connection to the upper chest, making all the other exercises you are doing more effective. The better you are at recruiting/contracting a muscle, the easier it is to make it grow.

Maybe, I could suggest another cool variation of the Squeeze Press to the arsenal, which I saw Brandon Curry doing. Just click on the link, it starts at 5:15 minutes.

Hope this helps.