[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
The heat is on him hard, all of the time, as it should be. He completely fucked up a social program that many people didn’t want in the first place even in a best case scenario.
It doesn’t matter what color he is- He fucked up. It was a one time shot at being a zero or a hero and he landed on zero. Race didn’t do him any favors, but the debacle of this thing would have devastated any standing president regardless of race, track record, or any thing else.
Think about how the Reagan admin devised a strategy to end the cold war, bring down the Berlin wall and effect a worldwide social cascade, then look at this current shit show. Then imagine what would have happend to Reagan if his plan rolled out like an overburdened dump truck with square wheels. He would go down in history as an international assclown.
That is where Obama is right now, and he worked very hard to get there.
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Criticizing him for the job he has done is one thing but I think when you start getting into the whole birther matter is when you see racism rear its head. But it didn’t start with Obama. The nature of discourse in this country has become increasingly hostile and uncivil. And those voices have gotten louder and more attention thanks to the media. What I’m getting at is that I believe it’s a lie to deny that some of the “criticism” directed at Obama is racially motivated. It would be ridiculous to think, in a nation which has the KKK, Boston, Stormfront and other hate orgs and outlets, that racism wouldn’t be directed at a black president. I do believe it is not as pervasive as some may believe it just appears that way because, as I said, the loudest voices are dominating the argument because the media loves a circus act. How many Americans really believe Obama is a Muslim or that he wasn’t born in the US? If you believe the news outlets it is almost everyone. I mean, how does a clown like Trump get any airtime to call a press conference challenging the president’s place of birth? It makes it seem like Trump is viewed with some measure of relevance by the people when I don’t think he is.
I think you give Reagan way too much credit. [/quote]
I said his administration. As the frontman you take credit and blame for the whole enchilada. As for what is or is not relevant, that is probably where we disagree most. I’m moderately conservative and don’t put much weight on the media or the lunatic fringe of either side. I’m looking at the execution of a job from a quality standpoint plain and simple. In my line of work you can make a relatively simple mistake and be shown the door without any forewarning what so ever and no recourse.
This is assuming that it was a problem in the first place:
His familiarity with the task Sucked. A bunch of politicians jumped into healthcare and it’s all fucked up. Thats why I call plumbers for plumbing problems and electricians for electrical problems. Next time we try to solve a health care problem, maybe we should call some doctors.
Done in a timely and orderly fashion- Sucked. Instead of thinking about what would solve what they saw as a problem and planning solutions with specific address to particular obstacles (like insuring pre-existing conditions) they opened the flood gates by putting it into the hands of people who are not at all in the business of treating people, but of running insurance programs. Instead of front loading solutions to peoples needs he back doored a solution to an insurance industries wants.
His organizational skills- Sucked. He stacked his deck with people who tell him what he wants to hear and put them in charge of things way outside of the scope of their profession. An amature mistake that is a sure sign that he is not thinking of public policy or anything other than brazen self interest.
He shouldn’t be impeached, or brought before an oversight commity, he should be fired.
Unceremoniously shown the fucking door.
