VP Cheney Shoots Man

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Cheney hunts all the time - geez, even the slightest accident is generating partisan posturing. A lawsuit for negligence under these circumstances is a joke.

If Cheney rear ends a driver in front of him, is it because he is a neo-fascist neocon who advocates back-alley abortions with coat-hangers and starving poor, gay people?

And as far as Cheney being dumb - Cheney is many things, but dumb isn’t one of them. However, when liberals talk about hunting - always entertaining.[/quote]

Good effort Thunder. Actually he is a facist neocon (neo-facist??? WTF is that?) and advocates starving poor people. The gay children of illegal immigrants getting married and cloning embryos is an entirely separate issue.

And no, Dick is definitly not dumb. “Ignorant asshole” would be a more accurate description. “Good shot”, “safe hunter” or “someone you’d trust behind you with a loaded gun” are also out.

This is the lead story on our local news (Corpus Christi). The first ten minutes has been live shots from the ranch and outside the hospital. Now they’re doing a background piece on the “victim”.

Dick Cheney doesn’t like white people.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Dick Cheney doesn’t like white people.[/quote]

Hahaha nicely played

I heard this and laughed my ass off.

It did cheer me up over breakfast.

Can he go hunting with bush?

…PLEASE go hunting with Bush? DEER hunting? or better yet, BEAR hunting!

Haha, you are all going to like this one.

Hunting shouldn’t be allowed it’s cruel! I mean, how would you feel if someone hunted you? Probably like the guy Dick cheney shot :wink:

[quote]vroom wrote:

Nice spin![/quote]

Deanosumo was bringing up all kinds of nonsense, like a negligence suit. I doubt his rhetoric would have been the same if Howard Dean ran over a Deaniac volunteer’s foot with his Volvo.

As for spin, how can it be spin if the issue is non-political?

As for the seriousness of the event, anytime you get peppered with birdshot, it could bea fairly big deal. But we know from the report that it was not and the pepperee is fine.

I donno… I think hunting is less cruel than raising an animal simply for the purpose of killing it… THAT’s like the fuckin’ MATRIX dude…

Dick Cheney = one big pussy

This is the same guy who took 5 deferments and got his wife pregnnt so he wouldn’t have to go to Vietnam.

I’m a conservative Republican but I call a spade a spade.

[quote]OKLAHOMA STATE wrote:
Dick Cheney = one big pussy

This is the same guy who took 5 deferments and got his wife pregnnt so he wouldn’t have to go to Vietnam.

I’m a conservative Republican but I call a spade a spade.[/quote]

Show the evidence of your charges above. Give me some links man…

How the hell can you say this isn’t political.

Everything anyone in the administration does is political. It’s political if they have an aneurism while taking a dump for chrissakes.

The spin is calling it just an insignificant event. Yes, nobody died, everybody is okay, all that good stuff, which is cool.

See the point somewhere up above about all accidental shootings being negligent shootings.

Cheney is just a man. He makes mistakes or exercises poor judgment just like the rest of us. However, in the political realm that is always ignored… but this cannot be.

You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried:

“On Oct. 6, 1965, the Selective Service lifted its ban against drafting married men who had no children. Nine months and two days later, Mr. Cheney’s first daughter, Elizabeth, was born.”

This quote comes from a Saturday NYTimes article –
“Cheney’s Five Draft Deferments During the Vietnam Era Emerge as a Campaign Issue” – discussing the lengths VP Dick Cheney went to in order to avoid serving during the Viet Nam war.

It is apparent from the piece that Richard Cheney did everything humanly possible – short of fleeing to Canada – to avoid military conscription: He applied for and recieved 5 student deferments, a number described as “incredible” by professor David Curry of the University of Missouri in St. Louis. Curry has written extensively about the draft, including a 1985 book, “Sunshine Patriots: Punishment and the Vietnam Offender.” The Times quotes Mr. Curry as observing: “That’s a lot of times for the draft board to say O.K.”

  • Three weeks and a day after the Gulf of Tonkin resolution passed (giving President Johnson unlimited military force in Vietnam), Cheney married Lynn Cheney.

  • Within a day or so of the end of deferment for “Married w/o children,” Mr. and Mrs. Cheney conceived their first child.

Here’s the rest of Cheney’s well timed actions:

In February 1962, when Mr. Cheney was classified as 1-A available for service he was doing poorly at Yale. But the military was taking only older men at that point, and like others who were in college at the time, Mr. Cheney seemed to have little concern about being drafted.

In June, he left Yale. After returning home to Casper, a small city in east-central Wyoming, he worked as a lineman for a power company.

At that point, the Vietnam War was still just a glimmer on the horizon. In 1962, only 82,060 men were inducted into the service, the fewest since 1949. Mr. Cheney was eligible for the draft but, as he said during his confirmation hearings in 1989, he was not called up because the Selective Service System was taking only older men.

But by 1963, ferment in Vietnam was rising. Mr. Cheney enrolled in Casper Community College in January 1963 he turned 22 that month and sought his first student deferment on March 20, according to records from the Selective Service System. After transferring to the University of Wyoming at Laramie, he sought his second student deferment on July 23, 1963.

On Aug. 7, 1964, Congress approved the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which allowed President Lyndon B. Johnson to use unlimited military force in Vietnam. The war escalated rapidly from there.

Just 22 days later, Mr. Cheney married his high school sweetheart, Lynne. He sought his third student deferment on Oct. 14, 1964.

In May 1965, Mr. Cheney graduated from college and his draft status changed to 1-A. But he was married, which offered him some protection.

In July, President Johnson announced that he was doubling the number of men drafted. The number of inductions soared, to 382,010 in 1966 from 230,991 in 1965 and 112,386 in 1964.

Mr. Cheney obtained his fourth deferment when he started graduate school at the University of Wyoming on Nov. 1, 1965.

On Oct. 6, 1965, the Selective Service lifted its ban against drafting married men who had no children. Nine months and two days later, Mr. Cheney’s first daughter, Elizabeth, was born. On Jan. 19, 1966, when his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant, Mr. Cheney applied for 3-A status, the “hardship” exemption, which excluded men with children or dependent parents. It was granted.

In January 1967, Mr. Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft.

Quite frankly, I would have done the same thing as Cheney (if I wasn’t 9 at the time). The difference between the Veep and me is that I wouldn’t have the temerity to criticize someone who not only served in Viet Nam, but was wounded three times and won several honors for courage and bravery.

That would simply be hypocritical.

Cheney apparently has no such restraints. Of the American involvement in Vietnam, Dick Cheney was asked: "Was it a noble cause?

His answer: “Yes, indeed, I think it was.”

Just not for him . . .

I smell a vast left wing conspiracy at work here.

Actual footage clearly shows there was a second gunman on the grassy hill.

Didn’t no one notice that the guy he shoot was a millionaire lawyer? Community service at it’s finest right there. heheh

You mean Cheney shot the guy then hung around to make sure he got the treatment he needed? Damn, why wouldn’t he just run away to DC and leave the guy to bleed out? I thought that was the way we were supposed to handle accidents like that. Or does that only apply to Kennedy?

Political shit-talking aside, I’m glad the guy who ate lead (steel more likely) is alright, and I hope Cheney puts the gun down long enough to learn how to shoot responsibly. Gun owners don’t need this kind of publicity!

Come on, give Dick a break, I’m sure he didn’t mean to shoot a human being, it’s not like they go to the woods to hunt humans or anything like that.

markey wrote:

“Good effort Thunder. Actually he is a facist neocon (neo-facist??? WTF is that?) and advocates starving poor people.”

So he is a new facist? That’s nice. Hey, let’s make up some catchy little phrases!!! It’s easier than trying to come up with new ideas. You guys have plenty of time in the wilderness. You’d think that you could come up with something original. Oh, get used to being lonely.

“starving poor people” Also a nice little over the top phrase.

“The gay children of illegal immigrants getting married and cloning embryos is an entirely separate issue.”

Are you saying that Cheney is not compassionate towards gays?

“And no, Dick is definitly not dumb. “Ignorant asshole” would be a more accurate description.”

I LOVE IT!!! Another dimwit who points the “dumb” finger. You do know that dumb=ignorant. It’s like the guys on npr who have their little chuckle about George Bush saying nuclear wrong. Oh, when they are chuckling they are prounouncing it exactly the same way!!!

“trust behind you with a loaded gun” are also out."

markey, you are special. I’m glad you have no compassion for the guy who got shot. It shows just how persuasive and unreasoning your hatred of George W. Bush is.

JeffR

oklahomastate,

First of all, you are neither a Conservative nor a Republican. I appreciate what you are trying to do, however.

Second, did you vote for billclinton?

Thanks,

JeffR