That dude is talking crap. He doesn’t have any studies to disprove me but is closed minded. I’ll give you scientific evidence. Read pages “447 and 448” of a book on Google books named “Diagnosis and treatment of voice disorders”
Read the information below the subtitles “Gonadotrophic disorders”, “Hypergonadotrophic disorders” and “Hypogonadotrophic disorders”
In addition read the “Abstract” of the following study “Effects of Testosterone Replacement on a Male Professional Singer” on the Researchgate website. I think you have to pay for the full study. This study proves adult male voice changes after treatment for hypogonadism. I can’t post links as the moderator will keep removing them.
If youre relaxed your voice will deepen. So perhaps being on T makes you more relaxed. Otherwise, its not a guarantee. Greg Doucette has the most annoying high pitched voice and he’s got high T. Ronnie Coleman sounds like a teenage boy, Jay Campbell sounds like a raspy ashtray, and most TRT gurus sound like Woody Allen. A deeper voice is determined by genes and yes that includes hormones too but TRT is not going to change that much. Now with that said, I do know of some women’s voices changing if they are on Anavar, but I’ve noticed a clicky sound more than tone changes. I have experience working with a transgender man and his voice has become a bit coarse but he’s trying by being chill and relaxed. When he’s laughing and excited, he sounds like the lady I used to know. So there is some merit to your claim, just not something that I would consider to be evidence of vocal chord changes, otherwise I’d be a panty dropping DJ at my local R&B radio station. Anyway, I wont dismiss you as a wishful thinker. You just like the sound of your voice.
@middleages I appreciate your response. I am not on TRT but there have been several times that my voice is very noticeably deeper. Now that I recall, it happened when I was supplementing regularly with a men’s multi-vitamin. The multi-vitamin could have cured a deficiency I had which was limiting my body to produce optimal and healthy amounts of testosterone. I also noticed that on these certain “high T” days, I can get up and wake up easily from bed rather than being overpowered to sleep more.
It must be that optimal hormone levels relax the vocal chords. That is the most plausible explanation that could justify the quick change in vocal pitch and power.
No there are no studies regarding not shooting ur cum and voice deepening. Unfortunately, there are alot of things in this world to be explored on a personal level, you have to do that as u cannot rely on scientific studies when it comes to everything.
Try it, 2 weeks, see the difference.
The whole male organism change when u dont waste ur seed, hundreds of ancient texts has been written about this, all over the world, in different cultures, during different time periods.
I’ve done it several times. Never noticed any difference. I’ve had a deep voice since I was a teen and the only time it changes is when I first wake up and I have the groggy morning voice.
And then you ran over to labcorp and got TT tested to corroborate your feeling, right? Unless you did that, and you’re going off morning wood or feelings of “high T”, there’s no way to back it up
Perhaps. My take on abstinence has been that those that preach it to others are trying to impose some kind of control. It can be a spiritual teaching that is trying to detach you from your sexual urges which will lead to attracting a partner or a spiritual teaching that is trying to detach you from your partner, in order to move in on them. David Koresh comes to mind. Incels have long been a part of these movements, along with plain ole practical jokers that come up with things like “no nut november”. The “no fap” crowd lives in an alternate reality where they think they’ve reached “GodMode” because their seed is locked in providing all of these tingles to women. I say its BS and the porn addiction is simply filtering into real life, where the “NoFapper” feels like he’s suddenly in moments that could turn into a porno. “Women can sense how manly I am because I haven’t busted a nut in weeks”, when in real life women tend to be attracted to the man who gets laid and has no problem interacting with the opposite sex for more than 10 minutes without drying out the pussy. So with that said, go ahead and hold your seed, more pussy for the rest of us.
By it’s nature this forum draws a crowd of people who are hyper-aware of their bodily functions, often overly so. Kind of the point really. But the addition of online medical journals for people to cherry pick information that confirms their anecdotal evidence does not help matters. And add in an almost universal distrust of the same medical system and you kind of have a recipe for some pretty wild claims.
There are many reasons why this has been written about for thousands of years, again, in different cultures during different time periods.
Theres also a reason why todays modern western society of decadens is preaching it (western society is falling hard) → The more u can make men waste their sexual energy, the weaker they become, the faster the society fails. That is what is happening right now.
This has no bearing on your claim being true or not. Up until about 500 years ago we wrote all about the earth being flat.
I think men have been strangling the snake for a long time. If I don’t ejaculate for a couple of days, I am not getting much done other than thinking about sex. That is contrary to your hypothesis.
It is because you have not learned how to control ur lust yet. Listen, if u wanna jerk ur cock all the time, by all means, u are not alone. However, I would not be as quick to disregard ancient wisdom about sexual energy. As of right now, you are very close minded.
@mnben87 is anything but “close minded”. Just because he’s doesn’t take your babble about ancient wisdom as fact doesn’t make the case for your comment. You don’t even have direct references to what you proclaim. Not that it matters because it’s going to be fiction based on no scientific evidence. If YOU choose to believe that you have every right but don’t count on the crowd to follow you.
There could be any number of reasons why your voice sounds deeper one day and not the next.
I can go research and find information to backup my thoughts anytime I want. It happens all the time in the TRT world.
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Confirmation bias.
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Just like the folks who go to google and figure out they have all types of illnesses…
I bet the Voice can get deeper over time. Sure… I bet many do. I know woman can grow a deeper voice if they take too much T. Including many other negatives woman experience on too much T.
Take it with a grain of salt. Some are more skeptical than others. Who gives a F what people think. Just don’t get mad when they look at you like you are saying something absolutely absurd.
It’s absurd to think jerking off often is healthy. Wtf is wrong with people. It’s common sense. jerking off too much causes all types of issues with drive focus and sexual health. Most watch porn jerking off. Eventually the shit on the monitor is not enoguh and you survive to find something more wild. Problem is real woman rarely look, behave or bend and perform sex like a porn star. Asking for trouble.
Ffs I made the mistake of doing just that in my 20s and my dick stopped working. Doctors could not tell me what’s wrong.
One day i found an article that mentioned ED due to Over use and porn. I stopped for a good month or two. Zero sexual anything.
Guess what guys. My dick works just fine and I’ll never damage my body and mind like that again.
It’s obvious that When we have sex we get a little tired. Lazy. Lay in bed. Same suit happens when jerking it often. Eventually you have issues with neuro plasticity and the brain is only aroused by your hand and something on the monitor.
Can’t tell you how many guys have learned this the hard way.
One could also sensibly argue that if a mid 20’s dick cannot perform without complete abstinence that there is something else besides frequent masturbation and porn that might be wrong.
Unless you’re getting study results from religious institutions, the statistical evidence for young people masturbating and consuming porn rather constantly without a problem is overwhelming at this point. If even 0.5% of daily wankers developed ED from it, you’d be talking millions upon millions upon millions of 13 - 30 year olds seeking treatment for ED or sexual dysfunction.
I’ve heard the jacking it broke my dick argument twice before in the short time I’ve been here. It’s an odd argument to make considering the confirmation bias that exists here. We’re talking every last member has had or currently has a fucked endocrine system, and/or is using hormonal drugs that in themselves can cause a litany of sexual side effects. A not insignificant amount are also on SSRIs for various reasons. It seems odd to skip all that and place the blame on masturbating.