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Vinny's Strongman Log II


#925

Haven’t back squatted for 5 years and you do this. Nice!

What lifts do you do that carryover? in strongman do you feel back squatting is something you can get away with not doing?


#926

@strongmanbrett Thanks man. I’m just trying to inch my way to the top. I sneak into your log frequently as well, so cool seeing someone so young train so fervently. Hats off to you.

@duketheslaya So it’s been 3 years, not 5 years. I actually overshot how much time has passed LOL, hehe oops. I’d say my posterior chain getting so strong in the last 3 years has completely changed everything for me. Of course, getting my front squat up to around 500 (old back squat maxish from like 2014-15 when I last back squatted frequently) has helped tons, but I somehow feel gaining so much strength in my deadlift/GM’s/stone load has just made my lower back able to handle a lot of weight. I remember increasing the weight and just giggling at how easy 405-455-515 felt. I think I just got strong, dude. Weight felt like nothing on my back. Hopefully I can apply that to something that actually matters, like yoking 1000lbs beltless for 80 feet. Idk.


#927

Yeah, basically. similar to how my conventional goes up when I train sumo. Sometimes you gotta cheat the system :wink:


#928

Knees: destroyed.
Back: decimated.
Hopes: shattered.


#929

7/28/18 - bw 225, dealing with a lower back issue for the last few weeks now. I think I’ve got some badly aggravated discs. Basically any flexion of the spine, especially extreme flexion (the kind when you put on socks) feels like I have a brick lodged in my lower back and it’s pretty much agony and I have no mobility. Strangely enough, I back squatted 515 for a triple with zero issues amidst this issue present. I can bypass it with a good brace, it seems…I’d imagine beltless deadlifting/squatting would probably cause a severe acute injury. Need to play this safe.

Stiff Leg Sumo Deads
135x10,10 actually challenging. I feel my back certainly compromised atm.
225x12
225x15 really focusing on engaging both hamstrings, since my right is basically inept and turned off. I have to remember to use it.
225x15
225x15

DB Row
100x25
100x25
100x25 feeling awful, heaving harder than usual

Horizontal Banded Row
x15
x12
x12
x10
x10


#930

Sad to hear that your back is letting you down once again.
Are you seeing a physio or chiropracter?

I wish you a speedy recovery mate!


#931

7/30/18 - bw 226

Push Jerks (axle)
155x5,3,3
225x3
275x3
belt on
315x1
340x1
355x1 not pretty
345x1 grip must have been off, becausae this was the most disgusting press ever

Rack Lockouts
145x15
145x15
145x15
145x15

Laterals
x10
x10
x10
x10

Band Pull Apart
x15
x15
x15
x15


#932

Good luck with the back mate, def see someone if it’s aggravated for longer than a few days and your sure it’s not just muscle soreness.


#933

8/1/18 - Bw 227, @Alpha Released a video issuing a 3 month challenge. I obliged with some modification, but yeah, I’d like to shed some weight and I’m going to do some weighted walks and up my overall volume (whether hypertrophy based and/or calisthenic conditioning stuff.)

Power clean to Split Jerk Circuit with Pull Ups
135x10/x10
135x10/x10
135x10/x10

115lbs Javorek Complex (7 reps each of hang clean, push press, back squat, and bent over row done in an uninterrupted set, then resting 30 seconds and performing 6 reps of each, then 5, 4,3,2 and finally 1.)

Put on an old backpack (don’t have a weighted vest unfortunately) and loaded with 50lbs. A bit shocking for the first time considering where I walk is all hills and stuff. Total distance was 2 miles.

As for my back, it’s not feeling too great but getting a little better each day. I’m worried I’ve ran out of cartilage between the discs in my back :frowning: and there’s nothing I can do without professional help. We shall see though. I’ll give it some time and take it easy for once. Going to be a hard pill to swallow because I was stronger than ever. Learn from me, people. (you too, Vinny, fucking learn already, would you??)

Thanks for the well wishes btw guys.


#934

It depends of course on money or insurance (as I hear the latter is tricky in the US) if seeing a professional is feasable but try looking at it as an investment in your strongman career.
You can get back to being a active, athletic, strong guy without professional help, I don’t doubt that. But you aren’t finished in strongman.
If taking on help can prolong your journey in the sport or even help you speed up the progress, you might want to take advantage of that rather sooner than later.
That is not to say that you won’t get back without a chiropracter or someone like that. I just can’t recommend those kind of treatments enough from my personal experience (different injuries though).

I am happy to hear that you are starting to feel better!


#935

Haven’t been training, but I’ve been walking. A lot. I did 2 miles for 2 days then 3 on the next and 5 miles most recently, of course with 50lbs of weight in a backpack. Very difficult.

I’ve also been a bit inspired in my free time to play a bit more guitar. Did this and I’m actually proud of something I wrote for the fact that I didn’t hesitate on anything and I just let it flow out of me. Took about an hour or two.


#936

I hope you can recover from it. In the meantime, thanks for the reminder to do more core and hip work.

Also I second going to a chiropractor if you can afford it. It really helped me come back from my most recent (and most painful) back injury.


#937

Yeah, back has been feeling a lot better lately so that’s good. Gonna ease back into stuff, but still spending time trying to just clean up the diet and cut a bit of fat.

8/7/18 - Bw 226

Javorek Complex
115lbs for a warm up (was actually a lung burner)
125lb axle, very tough but not a mental barrier so to speak, I’ve done 155lbs with this and that was a fucking nightmare.

Hammer Curl
40x8
40x8
40x8

Barbell Curl
45x15
45x15
45x15
45x15

Ab Pulldown
x15
x15
x15
x15 major cramps god help me


#938

That sounds great man, nice work.


#939

@littlesleeper thanks man!

8/9/18 - BW 224

GM’s/Front Squat Circuit (rest 2 minutes between rounds), 5 rounds total
95x15/135x10
95x25/135x8
95x20~/135x10
oly shoes off (first time squatting without them in who knows how long, felt great)
95x~50/135x10
95x~50/135x10

Sled Push (yoke with bar set down as low as possible), 1 min timed rest
230x110ft
230x110ft
230x110ft
230x110ft omg this SUCKED so bad
230x110ft very much wanted to die

Rested about 30 minutes and refueled and embarked on weighted walk. I bought a weighted vest but in the mean time I’m using an old back pack. It is fucking AGONY, the way it pulls on your traps. After mile 2, near the end, it’s just very uncomfortable.

Total distance: 3 miles, 50lbs. VMO’s were cramping on the entirety of mile 2, and the cramping didn’t subside once I arrived home. I popped a sodium tab and ate a bunch of rice and protein.


#940

8/10/18 - BW 225.0 (was like 225.7 a few days ago but ill start including decimal stuff for sake for detail)

Bench (randomly decided to bench at a gym with a buddy)
135x8
185x8
225x6
275x3
290x10 pretty good for never benching i guess, got help on last rep a bit

Rotator cuff is flared UP right now. that’s okay. I never bench so it was worth it hehehe.

Push Jerks (barbell)
135x3
225x3
275x3
315x3 no belt or wrist wraps/chalk, ugly.
275x8

Max Curl (pretty strict)
45x1
95x1
135x1
145x1 in the squat rack too. Oh god what have i

Preacher Curl
95x8
95x6-8
65x10
65x10
65x10

Side Lateral
40x10
40x10
40x10
40x10

Upright Row SS with Face Pull
110x8/x10
110x8/x10
110x8/x10
110x8/x10

3 Mile Walk with 50lbs weight.


#941

What? :smiley:


#942

Hey Vinny,
I have once more a question for you:
Have you ever experimented with btn push press/ jerk? I have seen a post of Adam Bishop doing an easy 180 kg btn power jerk and was curious. I did try it today myself. I am wondering however how beneficial this is for strongman since you are not going to press from behind the head. Also I am wondering about risk vs. rewarded with this.


#943

Keep it up mate, I hope you get the back sorted out soon


#944

I wasn’t sure at first, but with some thought, I think they can be useful for teaching stability at the lockout of a split jerk/overhead, since you can use significantly more weight than you can a normal jerk. It may also overload the “lockout”, though the redip of a jerk generally nullifies the need to press out weights with triceps so…can’t really say. I know most strongmen do not train this movement, but it’s worth playing with, for sure.