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Video: How Obama Got Elected


#1

http://howobamagotelected.com/

Heart breaking, but also funny.

"Zogby Poll

512 Obama Voters 11/13/08-11/15/08 MOE +/- 4.4 points

97.1% High School Graduate or higher, 55% College Graduates

Results to 12 simple Multiple Choice Questions

57.4% could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing)

81.8% could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)

82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)

88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)

56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).

And yet.....

Only 13.7% failed to identify Sarah Palin as the person on which their party spent $150,000 in clothes

Only 6.2% failed to identify Palin as the one with a pregnant teenage daughter

And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her "house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!"


#2

Revealing. But not surprising.

This only reinforces my stance on a nationwide “voter exam”, where voters would be tested on their knowledge of current events, government, the candidates stance on certain issues, and who their representatives in Congress are.


#3

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Revealing. But not surprising.

This only reinforces my stance on a nationwide “voter exam”, where voters would be tested on their knowledge of current events, government, the candidates stance on certain issues, and who their representatives in Congress are.[/quote]

LOL. People want there to be NO restrictions on guns but want American citizens to have advanced degrees in politics just to vote. Yep, that makes perfect sense.


#4

[quote]Professor X wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Revealing. But not surprising.

This only reinforces my stance on a nationwide “voter exam”, where voters would be tested on their knowledge of current events, government, the candidates stance on certain issues, and who their representatives in Congress are.

LOL. People want there to be NO restrictions on guns but want American citizens to have advanced degrees in politics just to vote. Yep, that makes perfect sense.[/quote]

This is false! I think you should at least be 10 years old to buy a gun.


#5

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
http://howobamagotelected.com/

Heart breaking, but also funny.

"Zogby Poll

512 Obama Voters 11/13/08-11/15/08 MOE +/- 4.4 points

97.1% High School Graduate or higher, 55% College Graduates

Results to 12 simple Multiple Choice Questions

57.4% could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing)

81.8% could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)

82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)

88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)

56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).

And yet…

Only 13.7% failed to identify Sarah Palin as the person on which their party spent $150,000 in clothes

Only 6.2% failed to identify Palin as the one with a pregnant teenage daughter

And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her “house,” even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!"
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Damn you beat me to it! I just saw this video…Certainly this is similar to much of the rhetoric and ideology expressed by our leftists brothers and sisters right here…They want hope and change, but they don’t know what that means and they don’t fucking care.
I have yet to hear a single solitary expression of fact from an Obama voter as to why they voted for him…Apparently policy takes a back seat to platitudes.


#6

[quote]Professor X wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Revealing. But not surprising.

This only reinforces my stance on a nationwide “voter exam”, where voters would be tested on their knowledge of current events, government, the candidates stance on certain issues, and who their representatives in Congress are.

LOL. People want there to be NO restrictions on guns but want American citizens to have advanced degrees in politics just to vote. Yep, that makes perfect sense.[/quote]

We need to pass a test to drive a car. Would it not benefit the system to actually have a test on how our government works. Basic tests about how the system works BEFORE voting in it?

I do see benefits. MOST people don’t even know an assemblyman from a state senator or governor. Or that state government is different that federal.

The problem is we only have a 75% high school graduation rate today and people are either uninformed or misinformed.

There was a comedian who went out and did interviews and asked uninformed inner city voters if they were ok with Obama’s selection of Sarah Palin as the VP…if they were comfortable with a woman as a running mate…most all went with it and said they supported her and his decision.

Unreal.

Now if the group who needs the most help is unwilling to educate themselves, we are in for a consistant downward spiral where isues are not the real things people vote on.


#7

[quote]Professor X wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Revealing. But not surprising.

This only reinforces my stance on a nationwide “voter exam”, where voters would be tested on their knowledge of current events, government, the candidates stance on certain issues, and who their representatives in Congress are.

LOL. People want there to be NO restrictions on guns but want American citizens to have advanced degrees in politics just to vote. Yep, that makes perfect sense.[/quote]

I honestly don’t think it’s too much to ask that these “informed voters” at least know the three branches of government and how they function on both the state and national level, who their rep in Congress is, general current issues, and the issues they are voting on.

This isn’t rocket science. Anyone can learn these things over a weekend. And by the way, my stance on gun issues might surprise you.


#8

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Professor X wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Revealing. But not surprising.

This only reinforces my stance on a nationwide “voter exam”, where voters would be tested on their knowledge of current events, government, the candidates stance on certain issues, and who their representatives in Congress are.

LOL. People want there to be NO restrictions on guns but want American citizens to have advanced degrees in politics just to vote. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

We need to pass a test to drive a car. Would it not benefit the system to actually have a test on how our government works. Basic tests about how the system works BEFORE voting in it?

I do see benefits. MOST people don’t even know an assemblyman from a state senator or governor. Or that state government is different that federal.

The problem is we only have a 75% high school graduation rate today and people are either uninformed or misinformed.

There was a comedian who went out and did interviews and asked uninformed inner city voters if they were ok with Obama’s selection of Sarah Palin as the VP…if they were comfortable with a woman as a running mate…most all went with it and said they supported her and his decision.

Unreal.

Now if the group who needs the most help is unwilling to educate themselves, we are in for a consistant downward spiral where isues are not the real things people vote on.[/quote]

My question is this…when responses were made stating that many voters were uninformed when they voted for Bush in 2000 or 2004, we heard NONE of this. Why? In fact, it is very strange that SUDDENLY it is an issue about voters being more informed when voters as a whole in this country are probably more informed than they have ever been.

Do you think that if this were the early 1800’s that every backwoods farmer who voted or even every progressive city dweller knew all about their government? Hell no. Most of what they knew came from pamphlets and flyers…or outdated newspaper articles that were delivered weeks after the event.

Most people probably don’t know their own representatives…which may be sad but it is by no means new.


#9

So sad…the man won. Whether you like it or not…voted for him or not: Stop fucking whining about it. Remember,whining doesn’t solve anything…right HH?

Right to bear arms…but not the right to vote. And people whine about Obama desecrating their constitutional rights…stop fucking crying and do something about it…IF AND WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY APPLICABLE.

The man hasn’t even served a term yet…good grief. PWI should be purged.


#10

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
So sad…the man won. Whether you like it or not…voted for him or not: Stop fucking whining about it. Remember,whining doesn’t solve anything…right HH?

Right to bear arms…but not the right to vote. And people whine about Obama desecrating their constitutional rights…stop fucking crying and do something about it…IF AND WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY APPLICABLE.

The man hasn’t even served a term yet…good grief. PWI should be purged.[/quote]

Exactly.


#11

[quote]Professor X wrote:
My question is this…when responses were made stating that many voters were uninformed when they voted for Bush in 2000 or 2004, we heard NONE of this. Why? In fact, it is very strange that SUDDENLY it is an issue about voters being more informed when voters as a whole in this country are probably more informed than they have ever been.

Do you think that if this were the early 1800’s that every backwoods farmer who voted or even every progressive city dweller knew all about their government? Hell no. Most of what they knew came from pamphlets and flyers…or outdated newspaper articles that were delivered weeks after the event.

Most people probably don’t know their own representatives…which may be sad but it is by no means new.[/quote]

Bingo.


#12

go to that website and watch the first video listed. The woman at 1:44 is going to be my wife.


#13

[quote]Professor X wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Revealing. But not surprising.

This only reinforces my stance on a nationwide “voter exam”, where voters would be tested on their knowledge of current events, government, the candidates stance on certain issues, and who their representatives in Congress are.

LOL. People want there to be NO restrictions on guns but want American citizens to have advanced degrees in politics just to vote. Yep, that makes perfect sense.[/quote]

One individual with a gun has less power then the President of the United States.

We require individuals entering the country to take a test for citizenship why not to vote.

Lets pick a different topic lets say we had a vote on whether or not to fight a war in Iraq. Lets say 25% is for the war 25% is against the other 50% doesn’t even know where Iraq is, has no clue why were are fighting, was in Mexico when 9/11 occurred, and doesn’t even know how to hold a weapon. Should they be allowed to vote to send troops to war?

Everyone should be allowed to vote. It is a citizens right, but requiring people to know at least the basics is no worse then requiring people to learn the basics of driving before actually driving. You have to pass a test to get a permit why not to vote?

No body said anything about advanced degree we are talking about people who thought Tina Fey and Sarah Palin ARE THE SAME PERSON! You don’t see a problem with that. What if roles were reversed and everyone thought The Rock Dwayne Johnson was Barrack Obama and thougth Obama just wanted to smell what was cooking…stole that Rock thing from a radio show…


#14

“these weren’t dumb people–they were just misinformed by the media.”

YUP!


#15

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Everyone should be allowed to vote. It is a citizens right, but requiring people to know at least the basics is no worse then requiring people to learn the basics of driving before actually driving. You have to pass a test to get a permit why not to vote?

No body said anything about advanced degree we are talking about people who thought Tina Fey and Sarah Palin ARE THE SAME PERSON! You don’t see a problem with that. What if roles were reversed and everyone thought The Rock Dwayne Johnson was Barrack Obama and thougth Obama just wanted to smell what was cooking…stole that Rock thing from a radio show…[/quote]

Sarah Palin made some related comment about how close Russia was to Alaska and Saturday Night Live (viewed by millions) turned that into, “I can see Russia from my house”. In the grand scheme of things, I can think of much worse to be concerned about. Palin was not the slam dunk many hoped she would be. Get over it.


#16

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
Professor X wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Revealing. But not surprising.

This only reinforces my stance on a nationwide “voter exam”, where voters would be tested on their knowledge of current events, government, the candidates stance on certain issues, and who their representatives in Congress are.

LOL. People want there to be NO restrictions on guns but want American citizens to have advanced degrees in politics just to vote. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

We need to pass a test to drive a car. Would it not benefit the system to actually have a test on how our government works. Basic tests about how the system works BEFORE voting in it?

I do see benefits. MOST people don’t even know an assemblyman from a state senator or governor. Or that state government is different that federal.

The problem is we only have a 75% high school graduation rate today and people are either uninformed or misinformed.

There was a comedian who went out and did interviews and asked uninformed inner city voters if they were ok with Obama’s selection of Sarah Palin as the VP…if they were comfortable with a woman as a running mate…most all went with it and said they supported her and his decision.

Unreal.

Now if the group who needs the most help is unwilling to educate themselves, we are in for a consistant downward spiral where isues are not the real things people vote on.

My question is this…when responses were made stating that many voters were uninformed when they voted for Bush in 2000 or 2004, we heard NONE of this. Why? In fact, it is very strange that SUDDENLY it is an issue about voters being more informed when voters as a whole in this country are probably more informed than they have ever been.

Do you think that if this were the early 1800’s that every backwoods farmer who voted or even every progressive city dweller knew all about their government? Hell no. Most of what they knew came from pamphlets and flyers…or outdated newspaper articles that were delivered weeks after the event.

Most people probably don’t know their own representatives…which may be sad but it is by no means new.[/quote]

We aren’t going to start this crap again about suddenly everyone has changed since the election and no one cared when Bush was in office like in the thread about the patriot act and conservative just jumping ship since they are out of power.


#17

[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

Everyone should be allowed to vote. It is a citizens right, but requiring people to know at least the basics is no worse then requiring people to learn the basics of driving before actually driving. You have to pass a test to get a permit why not to vote?

No body said anything about advanced degree we are talking about people who thought Tina Fey and Sarah Palin ARE THE SAME PERSON! You don’t see a problem with that. What if roles were reversed and everyone thought The Rock Dwayne Johnson was Barrack Obama and thougth Obama just wanted to smell what was cooking…stole that Rock thing from a radio show…

Sarah Palin made some related comment about how close Russia was to Alaska and Saturday Night Live (viewed by millions) turned that into, “I can see Russia from my house”. In the grand scheme of things, I can think of much worse to be concerned about. Palin was not the slam dunk many hoped she would be. Get over it.

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Have you ever looked at a map…Russia is not very far from Alaska…I never said Palin was the answer even though I think she has a great future in politics…What exactly do I need to get over?

By the way dealing with Russia gave Palin more experiece dealing with Interntional issues then our new president.


#18

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
By the way dealing with Russia gave Palin more experience dealing with international issues then our new president. [/quote]

What exactly were Palin’s dealings with Russia? Will she have even more “experience” in the next 4 years??


#19

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Have you ever looked at a map…Russia is not very far from Alaska…I never said Palin was the answer even though I think she has a great future in politics…What exactly do I need to get over?[/quote]

LOL. My dad is from Anchorage, AK so yes, I am well aware of where it is geographically which is why so many people thought that comment was legit.


#20

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

We aren’t going to start this crap again about suddenly everyone has changed since the election and no one cared when Bush was in office like in the thread about the patriot act and conservative just jumping ship since they are out of power. [/quote]

Wow. So where were the posts from republicans in 2004 about how we need to have voters get tested before they vote AFTER Bush won? How does that affect people who are illiterate? They can’t vote now? Trust me, a shit load more illiterate voters were around over 100 years ago than there are right now.