Totally agree with you Derek. But I think what's more important than the ketosis matter, which Joey correctly pointed out one isn't in on the AD, is the possibility of getting one out of fat burning mode..which IS possible if you go over by a substantial amount...say upwards of 10 grams or so over the allotted 30g.
Now Joey has his numbers probably in check due to the 3 types of veggies he's consuming..that's what it takes in my opinion...you pretty much can't eat a shitload of anything even very low carb veggies or you will go over, one cup is a fair amount to eat IMO..to prevent that..celery isn't even counted by the good Dr.DiPasquale...he states that it is a "free" food.
Myself I enjoy broccoli, red leaf lettuce, and celery for my main veggies, with asparagus also.
These just happen to be easy to cook, get, etc...
Again though I try to eat just 100g of brocc at a shot...otherwise it will add up just like anything else. So Joey I'm looking for the guys who DON'T COUNT THE VEGGIES AT ALL...You do sound like you're paying attention to the count...so you don't count...lol..
Anyway, there ARE quite a few vets that don't and I want to hear from you guys on this...It would be easy to not count them...too easy imo..
so prove me wrong, no one has yet to my knowledge. There are still a bunch of guys walking around that thread on the AD who don't even count the fiber correctly according to Dr.D. As in the soluble is only half discounted, where the insoluble is fully discounted..
So have at it you veteran studs of the AD.
Where are you guys at?