Dj_eu - Thanks man. I've actually been on the OCB site, and I'm pretty sure that was the one I wrote to who said that anyone over-the-counter is fine.
Also, even if HOT-ROX was acceptable for the INBF pre 2007, I used 'em all through this past summer to give me a small edge with the eating before I actually started dieting (Sooooo difficult to cut back on your portions when you're accustomed to eating over 4K a day -lol)
I know they have 2 shows in NY in '09, one in April, and one in October. In all honesty, I'm gonna wait until Feb to see how I'm doing. I think the only real reason I've been able to keep most of my LBM is because I don't have a deadline, or a target weight. I'm just slowly tightening, and judging by the mirror, not measurements, or the scale.
At least this way when I make a pig out of myself around the holidays, I don't freak out so badly, just go right back to business as usual the next day
DG- I don't doubt there will be a few 'older' guys such as myself, I guess I'm just realizing that I've been comparing myself to guys like Cordova, Whitacre, Greenwood etc. All natural "PROS". Bottom line is that as long as I feel like I did myself proud, I'll be cool with any respectable placing.
I've gotten so used to looking at the pics in the Nat Mags, that when I recently looked a some natural BBing show vids (amateurs), I was surprised at how no one had any real leg development (especially no Hams and Calves). Of course I know that conditioning is the real key here, but again, the last thing I want to to be absolutely peeled, but end up in the lightweights.
My current avatar pic was snapped yesterday, and I was a hefty 187 lbs, which is the lightest I've been since college -lol. Of course I tell myself that I look much better now,.. quality over quantity.
Short Hoss- Believe me, I have no problem with folks on gear, many of my friends are veritable walking pharmacies. If I didn't work with kids, and have to look 'em in the eye and be a role model and all that other nonsense, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't at least consider it -lol