[quote]Professor X wrote:
THIS is why I personally think the V-diet should be used be people needing to lose a TON of fat in the beginning as a kick start, or a 4 week finisher diet when someone has gotten down to 8 - 10% body fat. If you start at 18% and end up at 13… you’ll always want a little more. The really fat person will benefit for the behavioral changes and continue losing weight, but the kinda-chubby person will need to work really hard to get more ripped after the V-diet.
Behavioral changes? In someone who has no clue how to eat in the first place? That alone is where your belief loses any credibility.
For an experienced trainer, especially one who had dieted successfully before, that may just be the case. In someone who has spent years or decades eating crispy fried crap all day everyday and has no clue how to even eat well at maintenance, this will simply cause them to jump right back into Krispy Kremes because they have no solid base of nutritional knowledge.
You sound like you’ve never actually known anyone who was obese due to poor eating habits.[/quote]
I dont know that I ever said an OBESE person should use it, If I did I was mistaken. I’ll provide an example in the last paragraph of someone I would recommend use it who is “needing to lose a TON of fat in the beginning as a kick start” - Which is what I said originally.
While I wasnt OBESE due to poor eating habits, i definitely used to be fat. My girlfriends mother is also 100+ pounds overweight due to very poor eating habbits. I’ve been there and I currently see it day in and day out.
In the case of using the diet for behavioral changes, which anecdotally have been reported by a vast majority of V-dieters, I think it would be very important to establish what good eating habits are, practice them for a few months, and then have a plan written up for after the diet.
I’d say 9 out of 10 times I wouldnt recommend the V-diet to someone who is obese(more at work in the brain then just wanting to eat pizza), and I would stick to using it as a “finisher” diet to use once single digits have been acheived.
However, If someone was on a “bulk” for a looooong time and had 40 to 50 pounds to lose (say a person who weighed 250 - 275 at 20% body fat) and knew what good eating habits were but wanted to kick the habit of eating a pizza every 2nd day of the week and mcdonalds every day… The V-diet might be a decent idea.