LMAO @ cort--how jacked can it get ya? LOL-good answer! Jldume- in all seriousness, that is what I'm trying to find out. Safetey, dosage etc.. look at joint support, aminos, Kynoselen, and the write ups on this stuff, it really seem to make sense. All the oil base users use vet stuff and take risks too. This stuff is legal, water based, readily availble, and I'm hoping some people experiment, use, and give feedback here on it. I'm trying to rehab from lumbar fusion with hardware--I'm way past the shark cartilage, fish oil, blah blah. I hope to keep this thread going... Have a good day all!!