Please tell me, why do we offer such strong, unwavering support?
And how is this relationship is at all beneficial to the US?
Please tell me why you have only 20 posts and you have started multiple threads in the Political forum.
Please tell me why people like you troll and ruin a great site.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Please tell me why you have only 20 posts and you have started multiple threads in the Political forum.
Please tell me why people like you troll and ruin a great site.[/quote]
Please tell me why you wont wake the fuck up, you character.
[quote]ssn0 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Please tell me why you have only 20 posts and you have started multiple threads in the Political forum.
Please tell me why people like you troll and ruin a great site.
Please tell me why you wont wake the fuck up, you character.[/quote]
By “wake the fuck up”, do you mean “buy into your unsupported conspiracy theories?”
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Please tell me why you have only 20 posts and you have started multiple threads in the Political forum.
Please tell me why people like you troll and ruin a great site.[/quote]
I’m sorry, I didn’t know you had to be a T-Nation forum “vet” before you could make two threads. Thanks for clearing that up dickhead.
And you can’t answer the question.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Please tell me, why do we offer such strong, unwavering support?
And how is this relationship is at all beneficial to the US?[/quote]
Because Israel is a steadfast beacon of democracy, strength, and progress in a region that is plauged by dictatorships, poverty, and violence.
Israelis and Americans share the same values, have the same aspirations, and are similar in many other cultural respects. Israel would lend a hand to the United States if ever it needed it, so the United States does the same for Israel.
Israel is committed to fighting the same enemies that the United States has, that being militant Islam. In my opinion, the United States has only two steadfast allies in the current global conflict: Israel and Australia. England is an ally too, but to a lesser extent due to immense political pressure and a huge Muslim population. Israel’s loyalty to the United States is not a point to be taken lightly.
Coalition of the Willing:
Estonia, yes
Israel, no
[quote]eic wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Please tell me, why do we offer such strong, unwavering support?
And how is this relationship is at all beneficial to the US?
Because Israel is a steadfast beacon of democracy, strength, and progress in a region that is plauged by dictatorships, poverty, and violence.
Israelis and Americans share the same values, have the same aspirations, and are similar in many other cultural respects. Israel would lend a hand to the United States if ever it needed it, so the United States does the same for Israel.
Israel is committed to fighting the same enemies that the United States has, that being militant Islam. In my opinion, the United States has only two steadfast allies in the current global conflict: Israel and Australia. England is an ally too, but to a lesser extent due to immense political pressure and a huge Muslim population. Israel’s loyalty to the United States is not a point to be taken lightly. [/quote]
“Israel would lend a hand to the United States if ever it needed it”
Coalition of the Willing:
Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
Coalition of the Willing:
Estonia, yes
Israel, no
eic wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Please tell me, why do we offer such strong, unwavering support?
And how is this relationship is at all beneficial to the US?
Because Israel is a steadfast beacon of democracy, strength, and progress in a region that is plauged by dictatorships, poverty, and violence.
Israelis and Americans share the same values, have the same aspirations, and are similar in many other cultural respects. Israel would lend a hand to the United States if ever it needed it, so the United States does the same for Israel.
Israel is committed to fighting the same enemies that the United States has, that being militant Islam. In my opinion, the United States has only two steadfast allies in the current global conflict: Israel and Australia. England is an ally too, but to a lesser extent due to immense political pressure and a huge Muslim population. Israel’s loyalty to the United States is not a point to be taken lightly.
“Israel would lend a hand to the United States if ever it needed it”
Coalition of the Willing:
Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.
[/quote]
Douchebag,
You know we would never ask Israel to help occupy a muslim country.
[quote]doogie wrote:
Douchebag,
You know we would never ask Israel to help occupy a muslim country.[/quote]
Yeah - that was a nice spin JTF took on something that even a two-year old could figure out the truth to.
I could just imagine what all the Jew hating, pro islamo-nazis would have said had Israel suited up and played for the Coalition.
I don’t get it. In the past few months there has probably been 15 threads all dealing with this exact same question. To the OP, what do you hope to accomplish by starting this thread? Do you think you hold some hitherto unheard of truth that will enlighten the rest of us? I know you are new around here, but unless you have something different to offer than the usual tripe given by the likes of JTF, I don’t see the point…
Why not ask why the US supports Muslim states?
Why spend billions in foreign aid to the Palestinians, Egypt, and Jordan?
Why prevent Kuwait from becoming an annex of Iraq?
Why bother spending all that blood and treasure to prevent Muslim genocide in the Balkans?
[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
I don’t get it. In the past few months there has probably been 15 threads all dealing with this exact same question. To the OP, what do you hope to accomplish by starting this thread? Do you think you hold some hitherto unheard of truth that will enlighten the rest of us? I know you are new around here, but unless you have something different to offer than the usual tripe given by the likes of JTF, I don’t see the point…[/quote]
JTF still hasn’t given us an answer on why, if all his rubbish was true, how he - the holder of all these damning secrets - can post at will in public and has not been snuffed out by the police state…?
[quote]doogie wrote:
Douchebag,
You know we would never ask Israel to help occupy a muslim country.[/quote]
Isn’t Israel a free and democratic government? Who wouldn’t want that?
I guess what your trying to say is, Iraqis/Muslims don’t like Israel so it’s best that they stayed out of it. Wouldn’t want Israelis put in grave danger in the middle of Iraq.
No, better to have Israel smack the hornet’s nest with a giant stick a few times before sending in the US and coalition troops.
Asswipe.
Israel To U.S.: Don’t Delay Iraq Attack
Aug. 16, 2002
(CBS) Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.
Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.
“Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose,” Gissin said. “It will only give him (Saddam) more of an opportunity to accelerate his program of weapons of mass destruction.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/18/world/main519037.shtml
Israel urges US to speed up Saddam campaign
Sun 18 Aug 2002
ISRAEL is putting pressure on the United States to speed up its threatened campaign to topple Saddam Hussein, warning that further delays will only enhance the Iraqi leader’s ability to prepare his defences…
Israel Says War on Iraq Would Benefit the Region
New York Times - February 27, 2003
Other nations may cavil, but many in Israel are so certain of the rightness of a war on Iraq that officials are already thinking past that conflict to urge a continued, assertive American role in the Middle East.
Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz told members of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations last week that after Iraq, the United States should generate “political, economic, diplomatic pressure” on Iran. “We have great interest in shaping the Middle East the day after” a war, he said.
Top White House posts go to Jews
The Jerusalem Post
Apr. 25, 2006
After appointing Joshua Bolten to be the White House chief of staff, US President George W. Bush nominated another Jewish staffer, Joel Kaplan, to serve as Bolten’s deputy, putting him in charge of the daily policy planning.
The fact that White House policy is now in the hands of two Jews is not seen as significant by activists in the American Jewish community.
“He is simply appointing the best people for the job,” said Nathan Diament, who heads the Washington office of the Orthodox Union. Another Jewish activist added that he “wouldn’t read too much into it.”
Bolten, who first served as head of the Office of Management and Budget, was the first Jewish member of Bush’s cabinet. Ever since Bush took office, there has been a custom of opening cabinet meetings with a brief prayer and so, before his first cabinet meeting, Bolten’s assistant contacted Diament and asked for help in finding a Jewish prayer for the security and well-being of the cabinet members. The Orthodox Union provided him with the text in English and in Hebrew and Bolten read it aloud at the next cabinet meeting.
Bolten and Kaplan will probably be the most prominent Jewish members of the Bush administration, but not the only ones. Apart from Bolten, there is another Jewish cabinet member, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, and there are other Jewish senior staff members, including Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams and White House staffer Jay Lefkowitz.
In the past year, several Jews who were holding senior posts in the administration have left, among them deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz, undersecretary of defense Doug Feith, Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff Lewis “Scooter” Libby and political adviser Ken Mehlman, who now heads the Republican National Committee.
US forced to import bullets from Israel as troops use 250,000 for every rebel killed
The Independent
September 25, 2005
US forces have fired so many bullets in Iraq and Afghanistan - an estimated 250,000 for every insurgent killed - that American ammunition-makers cannot keep up with demand. As a result the US is having to import supplies from Israel.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2005/050925-israel-bullets.htm
CONGRESS: NO ISRAELI BULLETS
some congressmen don’t like the symbolism of G.I.s firing Israeli bullets at Muslims in Iraq or Afghanistan. So they’re telling the Pentagon: “by no means, under any circumstances should a round (from Israel) be utilized,” according to Reuters. If the bullets have to be used, do it only in training, not on the battlefield…
In English, that means, “If shooting starts somewhere else in the world – or if Iraq gets much hotter – you’re gonna see Israeli bullets fly.”
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000986.html
U.S. Christians create umbrella organization to lobby for Israel
Haaretz
23/02/2006
WASHINGTON - A new group in the United States, Christians United for Israel, will serve as an umbrella organization for Christian congregations that support Israel, and will lobby for Israel.
Some 400 Christian community leaders met in San Antonio, Texas, two weeks ago to establish the group, which Christians United officials said represents about 30 million Americans.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=686241
New Christian pro-Israel lobby aims to be stronger than AIPAC
Haaretz
03/04/2006
NEW YORK - Televangelist John Hagee told Jewish community leaders over the weekend that the 40 million evangelical Christians in the United States support Israel and that he plans to utilize this power to help Israel by launching a Christian pro-Israel lobby.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/701583.html
I suppose the reason why radical Muslims want to attack us will forever remain a mystery… right doochie?
Thunderbolt - you are wrong.
The FBI, CIA and the Mossad have been trying to silence JTF for years. He is way too wily for them. JTF, as an avid reader of ‘Soldier of Fortune’ magazine is well prepared. Very well prepared indeed. Not only does he have an arsenal under the bed in his trailer (he’s the best armed Aryan in his entire trailer park), but the training camps he’s been through in Idaho have taught him how to keep one step ahead of the agents of the Zionist-Illuminati-One World Order.
Oh yes, JTF is very well informed, and very well read. Doubtless, very well educated. In fact, were he not so anti-intellectual he would be an intellectual. He even subscribes to the National Enquirer and spends countless hours doing research, pouring over interminable websites.
JTF is unstoppable in his quest for the truth.
Intellectuals like JFT know the power of the international Zionists but through his superior intelligence and survival skills he outwits them every time. JTF understands that the Zionists and the Freemasons control the Illuminati and have been holding the reins of power in the world since ancient times.
Most people don’t realize that the Illuminati is in fact the secret bloodline of the Reptoids, a race of space aliens who bred with humans to create a royal lineage, which includes (of course) the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, the British royal family, as well as most presidents of the U.S., including both Bushes, and Al Gore, as well. These facts are well substantiated in the National Enquirer.
Henry Ford and Joseph Kennedy were some of the few exceptions, but their names were blackened by the Zionist controlled media. So what if they supported Hitler? Hitler was also the victim of the left-leaning-pinko-homosexual-Jew media.
For us to fully appreciate JTF we must understand what he’s up against. The Illuminati assassinated Princess Diana who was pregnant with the child of an Arab Moslem. Dodi Fayed was a drunken drug-taking lapsed Moslem which explains why Al Quaeda conspired with MI5, the CIA and the Mossad to eliminate them using a Fiat Uno as the murder weapon. (If you have ever been in a Fiat Uno you will immediately understand the brilliance of this scheme).
Fiat, as you know, is controlled by the Freemason-Illuminati-Zionist-Catholic Agnelli family). None of them can get the awesome JTF ? man of wisdom, man of steel.
These are real bad guys that JFT is up against. The Zionist One World Order assassins are very smart at covering their tracks. Naturally the homosexual J Edgar Hoover helped them. Didn’t everyone hear shots from the Grassy Knoll? What about the Tague wounding? Who was the “Umbrella Man?” Did he eat Matzos? Was the rifle recovered really a Mauser and not an Uzzi? Was using a German rifle a clever subterfuge calculated to deflect suspicion from the Jews? Does the acoustic evidence show a shot from the Grassy Knoll? Were the Three Tramps suspicious? Were they Mossad agents?
You’ve seen the Jew Kevin Costner give the conspiracy version of the Single Bullet theory. You know the story - Connally seated directly in front of Kennedy, at the same height, and facing straight ahead. Was that really what happened?
What sort of person was Lee Harvey Oswald? Did he really have “Top Secret” security clearance? Did he shoot at General Walker? Were there two Oswalds? Were they both Jewish? Harvey is a Jewish name.
How much did the Zionists pay him? Was Oswald involved in rewriting the Bible on behalf of the Zionist-Illuminati? Was the man exhumed in 1981 really somebody besides Oswald? Did Oswald really share an office with Guy Banister? Was Guy Bannister a Zionist agent? Did Clay Shaw really use the alias “Clay Bertrand?” Was Clay Shaw?s real name Chaim Shawkowitz? Why did Oliver Stone make a movie about the Shaw trial and not even mention Perry Raymond Russo?
Was Perry Raymond Russo an orthodox Jew? Did David Ferrie die a “mysterious death?” What about Jim Garrison and the Mafia? Did he meet the Zionist Meyer Lansky? Did the bullet that hit Kennedy in the back penetrate only an inch and fall out? Was it an Israeli bullet. JTF seems to know a lot about Israeli bullets. Was Kennedy hit in the head by a bullet from in front?
Are the autopsy photos and x-rays faked? Did all the Jewish doctors at Parkland Hospital believe that Kennedy was hit in the front of the neck, and if so, are their opinions decisive evidence that that is what happened? Was the back of Kennedy’s head blown out? Were the autopsy photos faked by the KGB, CIA, Mafia, Zionists and FBI?
The “lone nut” theory of the assassination is really the “two lone nuts” theory. What sort of person was Jack Ruby? A mobster? An intelligence agent? A small-time hustler? The sort of volatile character who might really have shot Oswald out of righteous anger? Oh no - he was a paid agent of the Illuminati Zionists.
Take the moon. it is perfectly obvious to intellectuals like JTF and me, that we never went to the moon and that the moon landings were faked. Yes! They were faked by the same people who faked the Bible - YES - the Zionists!
We know that NASA lacked the technical expertise to put a man on the Moon. Where were the stars in lunar surface photographs? The film used by astronauts on the moon would have melted due to the high levels of radiation. What about the undulating flags seen in video clips? Flags moving in a vacuum? Even the Jews don’t think of everything! The Jewish Hollywood moguls staged the whole thing in the Arizona desert.
I am so pleased that you are playing your part in exposing these Illuminati-Zionist-One World Order-Capitalist Exploiter-Communist Jews. JTF, it is up to Aryan soldiers like you and me to keep the Free World safe.
Let’s face facts JusttheFacts - you and I and people who think like us are not only idiots, we are, simply put, dangerous idiots. JTF you, simply put, are an asswipe.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Please tell me, why do we offer such strong, unwavering support?
And how is this relationship is at all beneficial to the US?[/quote]
Great question. Answer: the Israel lobby (wait, can I say that without being an anti-Semite?), and, increasingly, Christian Zionism connected to fundamentalist Christianity.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Why not ask why the US supports Muslim states?
Why spend billions in foreign aid to the Palestinians, Egypt, and Jordan?[/quote]
To keep Israel safe. Camp David 101, you know that.
[quote]
Why prevent Kuwait from becoming an annex of Iraq?[/quote]
Oil. Which we don’t get from Israel, last I checked.
[quote]
Why bother spending all that blood and treasure to prevent Muslim genocide in the Balkans?[/quote]
Because the Europeans let genocide happen in their own backyard, where it’s somehow much worse than when it’s in deepest Africa.
I suppose the hostility projected at the mere asking of the original posters question is proof that someone, somewhere did their job very well.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
I suppose the hostility projected at the mere asking of the original posters question is proof that someone, somewhere did their job very well.[/quote]
Or perhaps, the hostility stems from the frustration incurred by those of us who are tired of seeing the exact same question asked–or rather, the exact same insinuation made in the form of a question–with no regard for the pages of arguments already made? You guys (you know who I’m talking about) love to cite Jewish cabals, oil barons, and other nonsensical, conspiratorial crap; you cut and past dozens of links, in place of a coherent argument, that no one in their right mind would spend the time to wade through, yet you ignore any points for which you have no answer. Come up with a reasonbale post and I’m sure the majority of the responses will be reasonable as well; however, “Why does the US support Isreal?” for the 50th time is not a reasonable post.
[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
Or perhaps, the hostility stems from the frustration incurred by those of us who are tired of seeing the exact same question asked–or rather, the exact same insinuation made in the form of a question–with no regard for the pages of arguments already made?..
… Come up with a reasonbale post and I’m sure the majority of the responses will be reasonable as well; however, “Why does the US support Isreal?” for the 50th time is not a reasonable post.[/quote]
Best post in the thread.
[quote]eic wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Please tell me, why do we offer such strong, unwavering support?
And how is this relationship is at all beneficial to the US?
Because Israel is a steadfast beacon of democracy, strength, and progress in a region that is plauged by dictatorships, poverty, and violence.
Israelis and Americans share the same values, have the same aspirations, and are similar in many other cultural respects. Israel would lend a hand to the United States if ever it needed it, so the United States does the same for Israel.
Israel is committed to fighting the same enemies that the United States has, that being militant Islam. In my opinion, the United States has only two steadfast allies in the current global conflict: Israel and Australia. England is an ally too, but to a lesser extent due to immense political pressure and a huge Muslim population. Israel’s loyalty to the United States is not a point to be taken lightly. [/quote]
Israel is not a democracy. Name one other so-called “democracy” where racism is legal. Try preaching about Christianity in Israel and see what happens- automatic 5 years in prison for preaching about Jesus. Some “democracy”!
You’re out of your mind if you think the Israelis really give a fuck about us. The other thing they care about is taking billions of dollars in aid from us and running Congress.
Yup, the Israelis are so loyal to us that they sell our advanced weapons technology to China, spy on us when they are appointed to senior positions in our government (see Feith and Perle cases) and harass our troops stationed overseas and attack a naval vessel of ours.
Some of you guys need to pull your heads out of your asses.