Merlin is too busy slobbing on my knob from cyberspace to offer any coherent responses. Let me finish this stupid debate. As I said before, you can't actually hit the upper chest or lower chest or whatever because it's all just your chest. What you CAN do is take a wide grip on the bar so ur pinky fingers or index fingers touch the outer rings and make sure the bar is seated in the hand correctly- directly above the forearm bones and not back on the hand. This alone wll have u experiencing a different feeling. Then, bench with elbows at 90 degrees to make the pecs do most of the work and take triceps out of it to a large extent. To this effect, neck press is great and very effective- notice I didn't sat put 350 on the bar and neck press...notice that...merlin's head is up his ass so much he should be seeing this shit clearly, but he's not.
Try it. And, do the flys if you want.
Now, I want this fool merlin to tel me whaqt besides a fly isolates the pec...and you beter not tel me some variation of the fly either.
I'm telling you what works for me- I never had to do incline bench and my "upper" chest or any other magical movement like the concentration curl. What does that mean? It means genetics...period. All the adevice in the world don't mean jack if you are not predisposed to muscle development in a particular area. End of convo.
You can argue that point until doomsday and it won't change, so even if the most overrated mr. O ever...jay cutler...was to post a response saying otherwise, it wouldn't mean shit except he's wrong too.
Another suggestion from me is to do your reverse wrist urls and regular ones with a 5 or 10lb plate for a lot of reps every other day. It works much much better than any bar exercise or rolling a dumbbell of the same weight. Trust me...
Only thing needs cleaning up in this post is all the crap from that idiotic merlin and his fanboys who are probably finishing up their 11th set of cable crossovers.