[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
There is a small fraction of men who do well on merely 250 mg/week. The only occasions I’ve seen with that, whether this is coincidence or not I don’t know, has been endomorphs with little natural beard. I’ve seen a few cases where they dropped fat and added muscle remarkably with that low dose.
But for most men this isn’t the case at all. 250 mg/week is almost completely suppressive of natural T, which itself is worth say 100 mg/week, and so in terms of increase, that dosage gives only 150 mg/week worth of increase.
Whereas say 500 mg/week gives 400 mg/week worth of increase. So it’s more than twice as large an improvement.
Secondly, a tremendous part, probably really the prime advantage, of using androgens is crossing thresholds. In other words, until your hormonal environment crosses a given threshold, the most results you’ll see is such-and-such. You can train hard and well and have correct nutrition but you’re just not going to make rapid gains past a given point on a given low dosage.
Passing that threshold suddenly enables breaking through into a realm that just wasn’t going to happen without the hormonal level passing that threshold.
Biologically there’s at least one explanation for that: a satellite cell either will fuse into a neighboring mature muscle cell and therefore add to its nuclei and its ability to produce skeletal proteins; or it won’t. At one hormonal level it won’t happen, at another it well.
At 250 mg/week little or nothing may happen with regard to crossing any thresholds.
I would far rather see 1000 mg/week for say 8 weeks (just as an example) than 250 mg/week for four cycles of 8 weeks, as one comparison of equal amounts of steroids. Because the first will induce substantial changes that otherwise wouldn’t happen, and the second may not or in most cases will not do so very much.
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Bill,
Thank you for the info much appreciated mate, I was happy just doing 250 mg a week no sides and felt sweet in the gym got good gains, then I got blasted a shit load on this forum my body felt good to up it a bit, I upped it to 250 mg every 5 days.
Then I had a brain storm, a girl that I�??m seeing over here is cabin crew, i.e. air hostess, any way she was doing a trip to Thailand for a couple of days, any way long story short I gave her the pharmacy address were I have my good little source in Thailand to get my juice, long story short, she came back with 6 vials of sus, and 3 bottles of deca, what a good girl, so now I�??m going to start 500 mg a week now for 3 weeks then taper off during my x mas holiday break back in Australia.
Now I don’t know a F$@k n thing about deca apart from I hear it makes you go crazy hahaha, i got busted by my project leader at work reading steroid forums all day at work, if he catch s me again he will ban the net on my Pc, I will be up shit creek then, no pc were I�??m staying.
Any one got any good info on using 600 mg of deca, during week 7 of a sus course; I had in mind 200 mg a week for 3 weeks, then taper off with the sus, of course following clomid 3 weeks after the last injection, thanks.
Jp