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Up Coming Cycle!

OK this is a upcoming cycle that I have been thinking about doing tell me what you think about it.

12 week cycle plus 3 weeks of PCT

Week 1-12 test cyp 500mg per week
week 1-6 d-bol 50mg per day
week 4-12 Tren Acetate 100mg EOD
week 4-12 Tren Hexahydrobenzlcarbonate 100mg EOD
Week 1-15 Liquidex 1mg per day
Wait 2 weeks after last Test cyp injection and start PCT

PCT 1st week clomid 200mg ED with 40mg of nolva. 2nd week clomid 100mg ED with 40mg of nolva. 3rd week 50mg of clomid ED with 20mg of nolva.

I would like your opinions, so shoot

***is this to much Tren???

Why Tren Ace and Tren Hex? I’d personally drop the Ace and run the Hex starting week 1 for 10 weeks and shoot with your Test Enathate on a bi-weekly or weekly schedule at around 400mg. The Acetate is good by itself or even a kickstart while using the Hex, but both are not needed, simular to running prop and enath together, it works, but to not much added benefit in the long run after the initial kickstart period. I’d also consider Tren Enanthate instead of the Hex as you’d be matching your test ester.

I’d also use the arimidex at a dose more like .25mg per day and adjust if needed; due to the curve of effectiveness Arimidex has, I would switch compounds if one needed more than .5mg per day as 1mg dues not offer twice the benefit of .5mg only twice the price. Plus I don’t think you will have much need for more.

Keep some letro on hand or just use if you are worried or unsure of sides. You could also consider anti-prolactin drugs like Dostinex, but I think they are not needed - but I guess it would be a good idea to get some Letro and Dost and not worry about anything potentially having problems with.

I think that your PCT regime is a bit overkill myself, I would run Clomid or Nolvadex, but not both. I personally would recommend Nolvadex starting at 20mg and staying at 20mg, no need to take more at first to get you blood levels of it up or anything, and you aren’t using it to counter estrogen much at this time, so 20mg is fine, now if you were to start it earlier and not run the arimidex past cycle then I would double it. I also like to take the last 5 days and taper off as follows: 10,10,10,5,5.

You might consider running HCG DURING your cycle as well 250-400iu twice a week the entire cycle would do good and maintain both the unseen testicular function as well as the potential seen athrophy.

Overall great cycle and well thought out, my revision would be:
weeks 01-12 Test E 500mg split into twice a week
weeks 01-10 Tren E 400mg split into twice a week
weeks 01-06 Dbol 40-50mg everyday split into two doses
weeks 01-14 Adex .25-.5mg everyday
weeks 15-16 Adex .25mg every other day
weeks 15-18 Nolv 20mg everyday

If using the Letro and Dost:
weeks 01-14 .25ml everyday of both
weeks 15-16 .25ml every other day of both

If using HGC:
weeks 01-12 250-400iu twice a week.

I think you will enjoy your cycle very much, Test and Tren are a great cycle and the Dbol kickstart will get you rolling from the start, plus dbol with tren is heaven.

Thanks for you sample cycle and the explanation.

[quote]TheBeat wrote:

Overall great cycle and well thought out, my revision would be:
weeks 01-12 Test E 500mg split into twice a week
weeks 01-10 Tren E 400mg split into twice a week
weeks 01-06 Dbol 40-50mg everyday split into two doses
weeks 01-14 Adex .25-.5mg everyday
weeks 15-16 Adex .25mg every other day
weeks 15-18 Nolv 20mg everyday

If using the Letro and Dost:
weeks 01-14 .25ml everyday of both
weeks 15-16 .25ml every other day of both

If using HGC:
weeks 01-12 250-400iu twice a week.
[/quote]

This is a great revision. If you can’t get tren e then tren a is okay. You could do tren a EOD but switch to ED if you get sides. Tren e would be better though.

You originally had tren at 700mg/wk and test at 500mg/wk. I would not recommend this for most people. At most run it 1:1, but the above recommendation is great, and if you use too much you might get progesterone sides, which cabergoline would help with. I wouldn’t purchase it before-hand as it’s expensive and most people don’t need it, especially at 400mg/ml. If you need it at some point you can get it from ChemOne or any research company and it should arrive in ~4 days.

I would run the nolva at 40/30/20/10 if possible, or 40/40/20/20. Running 20mg then entire time is okay, but I think the above would be better given the higher doses and length of cycle. I guess everyone is different and you can use your own PCT experience to make this decision.

Test/tren/dbol is a killer cycle. It’s one of my favorite.

Schwarzy pretty much nailed it. I would offer these nuggets of opinion though. One, if you do go with Tren Ace start at ED, EOD is just asking for too many problems that can be avoided right from the get go with ED. Also I recommend using close to a 3-2 ratio of Test to Tren.

Some go 1-1 and they can get away with it but I’d never recommend more Tren than Test. When you factor in ester weights too Ace has a lot more juice than Enanthate. Finally, I do agree strongly with Schwarz that you don’t need a full mg of Dex a day and that your PCT should be longer than three weeks.