T Nation

Unidentified Symptoms - Bad Product?


#1

Hi Guys, my dad is on TRT since november. He’s 56 and on 125mg/wk of TE. Was doing great, losing weight, increased libido and actually gaining strength and muscle. No issues whatsoever.

Last few weeks we noticed red, pimple-like spots around the nipples. We tried 20mg of nolva(from pharmacy) because i thought it could be gyno, didnt work. No lumps under the nipples or any itchiness or tenderness. What could it be ? Something in the TE causing some reaction? I ve stopped injecting him and the spots have cleared away. Anyone ever heard of this ? How to fix it ? Could it be something to do with the actual test preperation ?


#2

I genuinely wish i knew, i’ve only ever known about red lumps around the injection site, im sure someone here will have an answer


#3

It might be possible that the oils used in testosterone could be causing an allergic reaction, oils used in testosterone are sesame seed, cottonseed and grapeseed oils. Was his brand of testosterone changed recently? Lately I have also notice a few red pimples on my chest, after a while they turn brown and seem to resemble freckles.


#4

With TRT, estrogen levels almost always need to be managed. Please describe TRT protocol in detail.

Skin may gave had latent blocked pores that are not a problem as skin becomes more active and oily. The fact that only this area of skin is involved does suggest an estrogen component. An allergy would not be specific to these single areas. It is also very odd that this problem only occurs after all of this time. Such problems around the nipples are not rare. Stopping the injections provided good info, but the problem still appears to be related to the skin activity mediated by T and not T itself. Many get transient skin problems on TRT, some acne. Timing does seem a bit odd. There might be some other factors such as nutrients or thyroid. Thyroid affects every cell in the body. Stopping TRT slowed down the skin and problem was reduced.

With TRT you can see skin becoming thicker and more elastic as lost collagen is restored. In my case, pre TRT I had some adult acne that I now attribute to the skin not been competent. TRT improved that. The skin on the back of my hands was thin and frail. Pinching up the skin there took a while to recover. That is called tenting. With TRT, that stopped and skin became much more younger.

Did T eth brand change?

Please post all lab work with ranges, not just the hormones.

Most of the time, when guys come here, their TRT is been mismanaged and that is the norm and standard of care.

Has your dad started wearing any new fabrics lately or fabric care products? Is washer rinsing properly? Do not use fabric sheets in the dryer? Investigate anything else that has been introduced recently.

Most of the time, injecting T once a week has a poor outcome. Self-injecting twice a week provides steadier levels. Subq injections more so than IM. #29 1/2" 0.5ml insulin syringes can be used.

Your dad should become directly involved here.

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