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Unforgivable Offenses


#1

Are there things people can do to you (or someone close enough to you) that constitute an unforgivable offense?

I imagine the answers to this will split along age and religious/non-religious lines but I'm curious.

Forgiveness. Is it ideal? Possible? Enlightening? A sucker's play?


#2

It’s an interesting question. I think short of murdering, maiming, or molesting one of my loved ones there are not too many things I couldn’t forgive. This isn’t to say that I’ll forgive and forget and we’ll be chums but rather forgive in the sense that it allows me to move on from the offense. In this sense I am seeing forgiveness being not for the offender but the offended.


#3

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Are there things people can do to you (or someone close enough to you) that constitute an unforgivable offense?

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Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Also, the Imperius, Cruciatus, and Avada Kedavra curses.


#4

I will forgive lots of things meaning I won’t hold a grudge over it, but I would still distance myself from people or cut them off completely if the offenses reveal them to be a generally toxic people that will do the same shit over and over again.


#5

Hurting kids, all bets are off with this.


#6

Fake. loud, moans & I smell shit, faces in porn. It’s sacrilege.


#7

[quote]aussie486 wrote:

Hurting kids, all bets are off with this.[/quote]

x2


#8

If someone touches my belly button they’re dead to me. I am 100% serious.


#9

People who have those tacky wishing wells in their front yard should be exterminated. Also those who don’t return their shopping carts, every store needs to have snipers on the roof to deal with that atrocity.


#10

Deceiving a brother of his inheritance from a dead parent.


#11

Sorry Beans


#12

[quote]Yogi wrote:
If someone touches my belly button they’re dead to me. I am 100% serious.[/quote]

Ha! A new item on my bucket list…touch Yogi’s bellybutton, become dead to him.

Anyone who hurts children, animals or anyone unable to defend themselves should be “gotten medieval on.”


#13

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:
If someone touches my belly button they’re dead to me. I am 100% serious.[/quote]

Ha! A new item on my bucket list…touch Yogi’s bellybutton, become dead to him.
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lol

I would destroy everything you’ve ever loved. Seriously. I HATE people touching my belly button!


#14

[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:
I will forgive lots of things meaning I won’t hold a grudge over it, but I would still distance myself from people or cut them off completely if the offenses reveal them to be a generally toxic people that will do the same shit over and over again.[/quote]

[quote]BeefEater wrote:
It’s an interesting question. I think short of murdering, maiming, or molesting one of my loved ones there are not too many things I couldn’t forgive. This isn’t to say that I’ll forgive and forget and we’ll be chums but rather forgive in the sense that it allows me to move on from the offense. In this sense I am seeing forgiveness being not for the offender but the offended.[/quote]

Okay… But is that really forgiving them?

I guess, we’d have to define what forgiveness really means before we can tackle the original question, no?

I hear what you guys are saying, and have heard it before, but it doesn’t make a ton of sense to me.


#15

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Deceiving a brother of his inheritance from a dead parent.[/quote]

Sorry about that, Esau. Mom liked me better.


#16

dunno about anything in particular, but I can tell you that once i have been disrespected, then I pretty much write them off. I’ve done that two two persons on two occasions recently.


#17

[quote]Yogi wrote:
If someone touches my belly button they’re dead to me. I am 100% serious.[/quote]

Jesus Yogi, if you cant be serious in these here threads then gtfo, okay?

effing jokesters~ the interwebz is no place for jocularity.


#18

This is one of those questions I don’t think can really be answered unless the unforgivable actually happens to you.


#19

[quote]Yogi wrote:
If someone touches my belly button they’re dead to me. I am 100% serious.[/quote]

I feel the same about my ringpiece.


#20

Wife having another man’s baby and trying to pass it off as mine. (from TTR’s thread; not that that’s what happened but it made me think of it) I don’t think I could forgive a long, drawn-out affair either. Not completely. I could probably forgive a slip-up/ONS.

Any stranger strongly disrespecting one of my family members, especially wife and kids. If it were a friend, it might be forgivable (severity dependent) after we went out back first. Outsiders don’t get a second chance.

A coworker trying to throw me under the bus or take credit for my work. Hasn’t happened yet, but I would never trust that person again.

I don’t think there’s anything my kids could do that I wouldn’t forgive in time. Child molestation might be the exception, but that’s a little more morbid than I want to think about.

EDIT: Any “friend” having significant contact with my wife that I’m not aware of.