Uncovered Books May Date to Start of Christianity

"One of the largest and best-preserved collections of ancient sealed books has been discovered in a cave in Jordan and are believed to be some of the earliest Christian documents, according to the BBC.

The 70 tiny books could date back to the first century. Carbon dating tests found that a piece of leather found with the scrolls was over 2000 years old.

Experts say the books, made of lead and copper and bound by rings, may be more significant than the Dead Sea Scrolls, BBC reports.

The writing featured in the books is a form of archaic Hebrew script with ancient messianic symbols, mixed with some form of a code, according to a news release. The codices show notable references to symbols of the Feast of Tabernacle, and depict images of menorahs and fruiting palm trees.

The books are currently the subject of a dispute between authorities, archeologists and an Israeli Bedouin who smuggled the books into Israel and hid them, claiming they were found by his great-grandfather, The Telegraph reports.

Authorities in Jordan want the books returned, since under Jordanian law, they are property of the Kingdom of Jordan, according to the news release.

Archeologists in Israel claim the books are forgeries, while British archeologists are committed to saving and studying the ancient scrolls.

“It is an enormous privilege to be able to reveal this discovery to the world,” David Elkington, leader of the British team, said in a news release, adding in an interview with the Daily Mail, “It is a breathtaking thought that we have held these objects that might have been held by the early saints of the Church.'”

The most intriguing portion, which faith had it right from the beginning?

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/30/ancient-books-uncovered-jordan/

"One of the largest and best-preserved collections of ancient sealed books has been discovered in a cave in Jordan and are believed to be some of the earliest Christian documents, according to the BBC.

The 70 tiny books could date back to the first century. Carbon dating tests found that a piece of leather found with the scrolls was over 2000 years old.

Experts say the books, made of lead and copper and bound by rings, may be more significant than the Dead Sea Scrolls, BBC reports.

The writing featured in the books is a form of archaic Hebrew script with ancient messianic symbols, mixed with some form of a code, according to a news release. The codices show notable references to symbols of the Feast of Tabernacle, and depict images of menorahs and fruiting palm trees.

The books are currently the subject of a dispute between authorities, archeologists and an Israeli Bedouin who smuggled the books into Israel and hid them, claiming they were found by his great-grandfather, The Telegraph reports.

Authorities in Jordan want the books returned, since under Jordanian law, they are property of the Kingdom of Jordan, according to the news release.

Archeologists in Israel claim the books are forgeries, while British archeologists are committed to saving and studying the ancient scrolls.

“It is an enormous privilege to be able to reveal this discovery to the world,” David Elkington, leader of the British team, said in a news release, adding in an interview with the Daily Mail, “It is a breathtaking thought that we have held these objects that might have been held by the early saints of the Church.'”

The most intriguing portion, which faith had it right from the beginning?[/quote]

This is an intriguing find. After studying the Dead Sea Scrolls I can’t wait to see what these books reveal. It’s archeological finds like this, that always seem to coincide with Biblical references, that continues to be one of the many things that feed my faith.

Yeah I saw this on yahoo news yesterday. Being wholly uninformed and unqualified to utter so much as a syllable of analysis at this point I’ll wait to see what comes of this. At first blush, I didn’t think leather bookbinding was that old.

I am quite interested.

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:

The most intriguing portion, which faith had it right from the beginning?[/quote]

The answer to this question isn’t in those books.

That said, this is a very intriguing find. I can’t wait to hear more about it.

A bit of balance is in order here:

I’m not vouching for the above source or his conclusions, but he does flesh out a number of factual details that make this find a bit less exciting.

I have no idea, but like I say. I had only heard of Papyri and vellum from that period, not bound books to the best of my recollection.

LoL come on people, I just found it interesting and wonder what will happen after the truth is discovered shrug

And Trib, where is this “leather book binding” you speak of? There was a piece of leather found with the scrolls. The scrolls were bound by rings. Just sayin’ buddy ; )

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
LoL come on people, I just found it interesting and wonder what will happen after the truth is discovered shrug

And Trib, where is this “leather book binding” you speak of? There was a piece of leather found with the scrolls. The scrolls were bound by rings. Just sayin’ buddy ; )[/quote]I was talking about the covers. I’m not criticizing the story. I just don’t know.

nor am I criticizing YOU! Just a playful jab in the ribs at most ; )

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
LoL come on people, I just found it interesting and wonder what will happen after the truth is discovered shrug

And Trib, where is this “leather book binding” you speak of? There was a piece of leather found with the scrolls. The scrolls were bound by rings. Just sayin’ buddy ; )[/quote]I was talking about the covers. I’m not criticizing the story. I just don’t know.
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“archaic Hebrew script with ancient messianic symbols, mixed with some form of a code”

I wouldn’t be too excited about anything meaningful being extracted from these documents.

HEY EVOLUTIONISTS

IF EVOLUTION IS NATURAL WHY DO I NEED TO USE A THUNDERSTONE TO GET PIKACHU TO EVOLVE?

CHECK…

…MATE

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:nor am I criticizing YOU! Just a playful jab in the ribs at most ; )[/quote]It’s cool. No worries here.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
HEY EVOLUTIONISTS

IF EVOLUTION IS NATURAL WHY DO I NEED TO USE A THUNDERSTONE TO GET PIKACHU TO EVOLVE?

CHECK…

…MATE[/quote]

ROFL. Completely irrelevant to the thread but funny nonetheless.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:
HEY EVOLUTIONISTS

IF EVOLUTION IS NATURAL WHY DO I NEED TO USE A THUNDERSTONE TO GET PIKACHU TO EVOLVE?

CHECK…

…MATE[/quote]

ROFL. Completely irrelevant to the thread but funny nonetheless.[/quote]

I don’t even remember posting this.

Zeb, the dead sea scrolls are a great argument FOR the manmade bible.

Similar to evolution, an atheist would predict such a collection of texts.

Nobody ever denied the existance of certain sects in the middle east.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
HEY EVOLUTIONISTS

IF EVOLUTION IS NATURAL WHY DO I NEED TO USE A THUNDERSTONE TO GET PIKACHU TO EVOLVE?

CHECK…

…MATE[/quote]

this is classic - this needs to be memorialized in a meme of some sort

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:

"One of the largest and best-preserved collections of ancient sealed books has been discovered in a cave in Jordan and are believed to be some of the earliest Christian documents, according to the BBC.

The 70 tiny books could date back to the first century. Carbon dating tests found that a piece of leather found with the scrolls was over 2000 years old.

Experts say the books, made of lead and copper and bound by rings, may be more significant than the Dead Sea Scrolls, BBC reports.

The writing featured in the books is a form of archaic Hebrew script with ancient messianic symbols, mixed with some form of a code, according to a news release. The codices show notable references to symbols of the Feast of Tabernacle, and depict images of menorahs and fruiting palm trees.

The books are currently the subject of a dispute between authorities, archeologists and an Israeli Bedouin who smuggled the books into Israel and hid them, claiming they were found by his great-grandfather, The Telegraph reports.

Authorities in Jordan want the books returned, since under Jordanian law, they are property of the Kingdom of Jordan, according to the news release.

Archeologists in Israel claim the books are forgeries, while British archeologists are committed to saving and studying the ancient scrolls.

“It is an enormous privilege to be able to reveal this discovery to the world,” David Elkington, leader of the British team, said in a news release, adding in an interview with the Daily Mail, “It is a breathtaking thought that we have held these objects that might have been held by the early saints of the Church.'”

The most intriguing portion, which faith had it right from the beginning?[/quote]

This is an intriguing find. After studying the Dead Sea Scrolls I can’t wait to see what these books reveal. It’s archeological finds like this, that always seem to coincide with Biblical references, that continues to be one of the many things that feed my faith.

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Science feeds my faith. Everything takes the path of least resistance. A deer takes a game trail. Air fills the space without it.
Nothing could move without something (God) making it move, because it would just settle in the spot where it is easiest for it to settle in.
The universe needs a catalyst that doesn’t go by its rules.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
HEY EVOLUTIONISTS

IF EVOLUTION IS NATURAL WHY DO I NEED TO USE A THUNDERSTONE TO GET PIKACHU TO EVOLVE?

CHECK…

…MATE[/quote]

I don’t understand this post at all…
But I appreciate the cat in the avatar. It looks amiable.

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