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I just found this, sorry if it’s old news to anyone, but anyway:

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=376156&NewsAreaID=2

This completely sucks, it was just about the only thing the UK still had left. When I qualify I’m out of this shit hole.

[quote]Dave_ wrote:
I just found this, sorry if it’s old news to anyone, but anyway:

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=376156&NewsAreaID=2

This completely sucks, it was just about the only thing the UK still had left. When I qualify I’m out of this shit hole.

[/quote]

You know what’s weird, I have been to the UK 3 or 4 times and every time I go, I usually run into someone young and all they say is “As soon as I can, I am out of here”. Now, given that I have only spoken to about 7 people total through all of those trips(angry loner here), I always found that surprising. For most, it was the cost of living/taxation/jobs.

Yes, this is off-topic somewhat but at least it isn’t completely off-topic.

And Dave, it seems there are fewer and fewer places you could go to avoid stuff like that. I’m just waiting for Canada to jump on the bandwagon.

“They are associated with aggression and violence, an increased risk of infections and in the longer term high blood pressure, liver disease, stroke and heart failure.”

naive fucktards

take a look at smoking.

even being FAT has more dangerous side effects than this.

lets take all the televisions and potato chips away from the fat politicians and see how they like it.

natural selection has failed.

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Interesting post Alt.

Hit the nail on the head there!

http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=65123

Apparently the latest banned substances are:

1-Androstendiol
1-Androstendione
Boldione
Gestrinone
Danazol
Desoexoymethyltestosterone
19-Norandrostenedione
Prostanozol
Tetrahydrogestrinone
Dihydrotestosterone
5<-Androstane-3<,17<-diol
5<-Androstane-3<,17r-diol
5<-Androstane-3r,17<-diol
5<-Androstane-3r,17r-diol
Androst-4-ene-3r,17r-diol (‘Androstenediol’)
Androst-4-ene-3<,17<-diol
Androst-4-ene-3<,17r-diol
Androst-4-ene-3r,17<-diol
5-Androstenedione
Epidihydrotestosterone
3<-Hydroxy-5<-androstan-17-one
3r-Hydroxy-5<-androstan-17-one
19-Norandrosterone
19-Noretiocholanolone.
The two growth promoters are Zeranol and Zilpaterol.

This means the Havoc I was about to order from the US is still fine though right? xD

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[quote]AlteredState wrote:
I mean look at this list of soon-to-be-banned substances.

Personally I have never seen these for sale (except for one or two, available from a powder supplier). No kid or average ‘assisted’ gyngoer is going to be using these. The ONLY people who stand a chance of ever using these drugs are sophisitcated ‘drug cheats’ and their tame chemists.

So the only posible reason for their being banned is entirely political. Nothing more, nothing less.

It pisses me off, quite frankly.[/quote]

Its wonderful being told what you can and can’t put into your own body isn’t it.

In any case am I right in assuming that Havoc will still be fine?

2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol for reference.

Do apologise - my chemistry isn’t what it used to be and I forget about alternative methods of labelling.

EDIT: The reason I ask is because a website claiming that EST Methyl E is the same compound that Havoc uses. The chemical in this product being:
2a,3a Epithio-17a -methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane

which bears a bit of more a resemblence to the banned substances:
3<-Hydroxy-5<-androstan-17-one
3r-Hydroxy-5<-androstan-17-one

Although the EST product has more noticeably a hydroxy group which the RPN product does not.

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[quote]AlteredState wrote:
I couldn’t really tell you mate; I’m not a chemist.

However I understand that the drugs listed above are due to be banned. I.e. they are not yet banned.

Even so, I would bet that it will take customs a couple of months at least to catch up, once they are officially banned.[/quote]

cracks knuckles

Time to stock up? lol

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[quote]Dave_ wrote:
I just found this, sorry if it’s old news to anyone, but anyway:
This completely sucks, it was just about the only thing the UK still had left…[/quote]

I’m showing a bit of aggro here, because I’ve been diligent about posting this stuff up at the “War on Testosterone:Dispatches from the frontlines” thread, trying my best to keep everyone ahead of the power curve on this type of rubbish…Read & contribute…

Attn: “Altered”…Did U get my PM’s &/or see my post at T-Nation support?..

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[quote]AlteredState wrote:
why are these substances being made a ‘class C’ when it’s still legal to get them and use them, just not sell them. Again, it is politics, nothing more.[/quote]

Goddamn straight…

[quote]AlteredState wrote:
benmoore wrote:
AlteredState wrote:
I couldn’t really tell you mate; I’m not a chemist.

However I understand that the drugs listed above are due to be banned. I.e. they are not yet banned.

Even so, I would bet that it will take customs a couple of months at least to catch up, once they are officially banned.

cracks knuckles

Time to stock up? lol

Er well I’m wondering whether you realise or not that it is LEGAL to import posses and use steroids for personal use, here in the UK. So why bother with some crappy prohormone anyway?

This is what baffles me; why are these substances being made a ‘class C’ when it’s still legal to get them and use them, just not sell them. Again, it is politics, nothing more.[/quote]

First time user of any real hormonal manipulation product and lack of knowledge of suppliers.

[quote]AlteredState wrote:
No I didn’t get them or see the post, sorry. Ah well at least I know you’re not ignoring me ;)[/quote]

Check out the tech support post…I will be sending U a test message later…

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[quote]AlteredState wrote:
benmoore wrote:
AlteredState wrote:
benmoore wrote:
AlteredState wrote:
I couldn’t really tell you mate; I’m not a chemist.

However I understand that the drugs listed above are due to be banned. I.e. they are not yet banned.

Even so, I would bet that it will take customs a couple of months at least to catch up, once they are officially banned.

cracks knuckles

Time to stock up? lol

Er well I’m wondering whether you realise or not that it is LEGAL to import posses and use steroids for personal use, here in the UK. So why bother with some crappy prohormone anyway?

This is what baffles me; why are these substances being made a ‘class C’ when it’s still legal to get them and use them, just not sell them. Again, it is politics, nothing more.

First time user of any real hormonal manipulation product and lack of knowledge of suppliers.

Well since prohormones are less well understood and less thoroughly tested that real steroids, you risk more damage through use of prohormones and also less muscle-building effects.

PM me and I can give you some further info.[/quote]

Done =]

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:

And Dave, it seems there are fewer and fewer places you could go to avoid stuff like that. I’m just waiting for Canada to jump on the bandwagon.[/quote]

That’s interesting you mention Canada, and someone else mentioning the Olympics. I haven’t heard anything with regards to OUR Olympics in 2 years and steroids, but I guess there isn’t much more they can do than they are already. I suppose the major drug among winter athletes is marijuana.