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Two Dunks I Did Today

since i posted my 11’ milestone vid here, i thought it would be good to show you how LAME that 35" vert at 6’1 really is:

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first dunk is around 35", second dunk i have no idea…

if you’re into the whole vert for dunk thing, at around 6’1, everything will suck until you get 11’6" touch…

i’ve actually hit 36" recently… but self lob dunks i mean you do lose an inch or so because of the focus on the ball… it’s rare that i get as high as my max effort jumps without the ball, but it has happened.

feel free to flame me, it’s good workout fuel.

peace

nice socks

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
nice socks

[/quote]

x2, they make your dunks look worse by comparison

[quote]Bloobird wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
nice socks

x2, they make your dunks look worse by comparison[/quote]

red white and blue baby…

oh ya… for all the people who like the high frequency shit…

squat:

2/25/2009: 245 x 1
2/26/2009: 225 x 4
2/27/2009: 225 x 5
3/1/2009: 185 x 10 (dont do this)
3/2/2009: 185 x 10 (dont do this)
3/3/2009: 245 x 3
3/5/2009: 255 x 2
3/6/2009: 225 x 3
3/8/2009: 235 x 3
3/9/2009: 235 x 3
3/10/2009: 235 x 3
3/12/2009: 245x3 , 265x1
3/13/2009: 235 x 3
3/15/2009: 245 x 3
3/16/2009: 225 x 3
3/17/2009: 205 + 80 chain x 3, 225 + 80 chain x 1
3/19/2009: 225 + 80 chain x 3
3/20/2009: 280 x 1 !!! PR!!! (1.7 x BW)

the only problem is, squatting nearly every day has made me extremely irritable/violent/amped up…

now i feel like killing shit when a youtube video doesn’t load fast enough…

the good thing is i can AMP up quick for my jumping/dunk stuff… i also can handle the squatting every day now pretty good.

peace

[quote]adarqui wrote:

the only problem is, squatting nearly every day has made me extremely irritable/violent/amped up…

now i feel like killing shit when a youtube video doesn’t load fast enough…

the good thing is i can AMP up quick for my jumping/dunk stuff… i also can handle the squatting every day now pretty good.

peace[/quote]

I’m getting the same effect from my lifting. I don’t know if its testosterone levels or what, but I feel the need to lift/beat/fight/break things.

[quote]brownab wrote:
adarqui wrote:

the only problem is, squatting nearly every day has made me extremely irritable/violent/amped up…

now i feel like killing shit when a youtube video doesn’t load fast enough…

the good thing is i can AMP up quick for my jumping/dunk stuff… i also can handle the squatting every day now pretty good.

peace

I’m getting the same effect from my lifting. I don’t know if its testosterone levels or what, but I feel the need to lift/beat/fight/break things.[/quote]

ya… im aggressive naturally, but high frequency heavy squatting is basically giving me roid rage, without the roids… hah

ya mean feels good :wink:

on another note… the high rep dunking has made my back/knees way more achy/sore than the high frequency squatting… as it should IMO, the forces are much higher.

peace

We spoke in your last thread. You’re not getting almost 3’ off the ground there man. You’re 6’1" If I remember with fairly long arms puting down simple one hand lob dunks, and your wrist is also barely over the rim. I’m not hating or talking shit just pointing these things out. Maybe time to switch your training a bit.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
We spoke in your last thread. You’re not getting almost 3’ off the ground there man. You’re 6’1" If I remember with fairly long arms puting down simple one hand lob dunks, and your wrist is also barely over the rim.

I’m not hating or talking shit just pointing these things out. Maybe time to switch your training a bit.[/quote]

you’re 100% wrong though… and ya im 6’1 so? my reach is 96.5", touching 11’ doesnt have a crazy amount of your wrist over… it only is around 4.5" under the base of my palm.

for a 35" vert i only have to hit 131.5"

from today:

132.5" touch on vertec:

on the vertec look at the bottom white stick and where it is in relation to my wrist… not the metal thing jutting out.

my good dunk today was around 34-35" … i said in the OP that i lose an inch or so doing the self lobs, its just a little bit harder than running up without the ball.

a 35" RVJ at 6’1 is not going to have you doing any impressive dunks…

peace

edit: a 31.5" vert wouldn’t even have my whole hand over the rim…

and i know ur not hating… im not offended or anything… thanks for the comments.

35" off the ground at 6’1" is gonna have your head a foot from the rim. Yours was not. Also, that last dunk was a rub in. Not trying to argue man, just pointing that out. I also think you’d benefit from more concentrated strength work and less frequent jumps, at least for awhile.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
35" off the ground at 6’1" is gonna have your head a foot from the rim. Yours was not. Also, that last dunk was a rub in. Not trying to argue man, just pointing that out. I also think you’d benefit from more concentrated strength work and less frequent jumps, at least for awhile.[/quote]

my head is leaning back…

when you reach up one handed you’re going to lose head height… that should be obvious… if i did a jump fully straightened out, that exact jump would look a little higher because im not leaning to the side in the air…

also the 2nd dunk was not 35 i already said that in the OP.

i jump ~2x/week and do strength work for my legs 5x/week… can’t get more concentrated than that.

if you look at the vertec (36") pic vs the dunk pic (34-35") then it should be obvious.

also my head doesn’t look a foot from the 10’ mark on the vertec either… thats because im stretching out and leaning to one side…

peace

[quote]adarqui wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
35" off the ground at 6’1" is gonna have your head a foot from the rim. Yours was not. Also, that last dunk was a rub in. Not trying to argue man, just pointing that out. I also think you’d benefit from more concentrated strength work and less frequent jumps, at least for awhile.

my head is leaning back…

when you reach up one handed you’re going to lose head height… that should be obvious… if i did a jump fully straightened out, that exact jump would look a little higher because im not leaning to the side in the air…

also the 2nd dunk was not 35 i already said that in the OP.

i jump ~2x/week and do strength work for my legs 5x/week… can’t get more concentrated than that.

if you look at the vertec (36") pic vs the dunk pic (34-35") then it should be obvious.

also my head doesn’t look a foot from the 10’ mark on the vertec either… thats because im stretching out and leaning to one side…

peace[/quote]

I meant concentrated as in less frequent and more direct. I’ve looked at the pics man. You’re talking to a jumper. 2" isn’t gonna translate well via a still photograph. If I were you I’d direct two days a week to work on getting strong as fuck and scale back the jumping for a bit. I gaurantee you’ll get closer to your goals.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
We spoke in your last thread. You’re not getting almost 3’ off the ground there man. You’re 6’1" If I remember with fairly long arms puting down simple one hand lob dunks, and your wrist is also barely over the rim. I’m not hating or talking shit just pointing these things out. Maybe time to switch your training a bit.[/quote]

Dude, he is definitely jumping 35" there! What’re you talking about?

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
adarqui wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
35" off the ground at 6’1" is gonna have your head a foot from the rim. Yours was not. Also, that last dunk was a rub in. Not trying to argue man, just pointing that out. I also think you’d benefit from more concentrated strength work and less frequent jumps, at least for awhile.

my head is leaning back…

when you reach up one handed you’re going to lose head height… that should be obvious… if i did a jump fully straightened out, that exact jump would look a little higher because im not leaning to the side in the air…

also the 2nd dunk was not 35 i already said that in the OP.

i jump ~2x/week and do strength work for my legs 5x/week… can’t get more concentrated than that.

if you look at the vertec (36") pic vs the dunk pic (34-35") then it should be obvious.

also my head doesn’t look a foot from the 10’ mark on the vertec either… thats because im stretching out and leaning to one side…

peace

I meant concentrated as in less frequent and more direct. I’ve looked at the pics man. You’re talking to a jumper. 2" isn’t gonna translate well via a still photograph. If I were you I’d direct two days a week to work on getting strong as fuck and scale back the jumping for a bit. I gaurantee you’ll get closer to your goals.[/quote]

we’ll have to agree to disagree… and just because you’re a jumper doesn’t mean you’re seeing it right… :slight_smile:

because 2" does scale well when im at the apex of my jump and the camera elevation is basically the same.

the point is, that even my 36" RVJ does not have a bunch of my wrist over the 10’ mark on the vertec… with a 96.5" single arm reach, fully stretched, 35" RVJ is not impressive…

if you’re thinking im supposed to be mid forearm with a 35" RVJ then thats wrong… 4" down my wrist is 35" RVJ.

like i said… 10’11 or 11’… probably 10’11 (34.5")

thanks for the program advice but i’ve had like 8 pr’s since training the way i am… going to ride it as long as i can.

hehehehehhehehehehehe

peace

I believe I see 35" too, and also head close to a foot under the rim. Looks like his wrist + 2-3" is over the rim, seems about right to me.

Also I believe WhiteFlash not trying to be derogatory, but help him to push the limit.

Also, if your still gaining on your program, keep doing it.

[quote]adarqui wrote:
oh ya… for all the people who like the high frequency shit…

squat:

2/25/2009: 245 x 1
2/26/2009: 225 x 4
2/27/2009: 225 x 5
3/1/2009: 185 x 10 (dont do this)
3/2/2009: 185 x 10 (dont do this)
3/3/2009: 245 x 3
3/5/2009: 255 x 2
3/6/2009: 225 x 3
3/8/2009: 235 x 3
3/9/2009: 235 x 3
3/10/2009: 235 x 3
3/12/2009: 245x3 , 265x1
3/13/2009: 235 x 3
3/15/2009: 245 x 3
3/16/2009: 225 x 3
3/17/2009: 205 + 80 chain x 3, 225 + 80 chain x 1
3/19/2009: 225 + 80 chain x 3
3/20/2009: 280 x 1 !!! PR!!! (1.7 x BW)

the only problem is, squatting nearly every day has made me extremely irritable/violent/amped up…

now i feel like killing shit when a youtube video doesn’t load fast enough…

the good thing is i can AMP up quick for my jumping/dunk stuff… i also can handle the squatting every day now pretty good.

peace[/quote]

Well done brother on squatting every day. It certainly is possible.

[quote]stallion wrote:
adarqui wrote:
oh ya… for all the people who like the high frequency shit…

squat:

2/25/2009: 245 x 1
2/26/2009: 225 x 4
2/27/2009: 225 x 5
3/1/2009: 185 x 10 (dont do this)
3/2/2009: 185 x 10 (dont do this)
3/3/2009: 245 x 3
3/5/2009: 255 x 2
3/6/2009: 225 x 3
3/8/2009: 235 x 3
3/9/2009: 235 x 3
3/10/2009: 235 x 3
3/12/2009: 245x3 , 265x1
3/13/2009: 235 x 3
3/15/2009: 245 x 3
3/16/2009: 225 x 3
3/17/2009: 205 + 80 chain x 3, 225 + 80 chain x 1
3/19/2009: 225 + 80 chain x 3
3/20/2009: 280 x 1 !!! PR!!! (1.7 x BW)

the only problem is, squatting nearly every day has made me extremely irritable/violent/amped up…

now i feel like killing shit when a youtube video doesn’t load fast enough…

the good thing is i can AMP up quick for my jumping/dunk stuff… i also can handle the squatting every day now pretty good.

peace

Well done brother on squatting every day. It certainly is possible.[/quote]

thanks man…

the body isnt used to that kind of tension, so once you work your way into it, you start thinking: “am i crazy?” “will this tendonitis go away”, then out of nowhere it does…

the next trick i think is to just listen to your body and know when to go for pr’s and when to backoff (but still go heavy, just not absolute max triple or single heavy).

another thing that is interesting is that your squat may suck that day, but if you’re doing plyos/jumps that day, those might actually be at PR level… you get alot of potentiation from day to day for ballistic movements.

peace

You’re head definitely looks about a foot away.
Can you jump off of one foot?

[quote]bluefingas wrote:
You’re head definitely looks about a foot away.
Can you jump off of one foot?[/quote]

well i can jump off one leg but it’s not at all near my two leg… years of basketball and layups have developed that motor pattern, but it has no power.

i only train two leg jumping.

ive hit 10’7" off one leg back when i was trying to train it… but its probably around 10’4" right now… dont know though for sure.

peace

Yo Adarqui, great job. Being able to dunk is a great accomplishment.