TSA Nominee Erroll Southers

I thought some of you would appreciate this out-freaking-rageous bit of stupid drivel:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/01/11/tsa_nominee_pro-life_christian_groups_are_terrorists.html

Unbelievable, I can’t fathom this clown is even considered. Yesterday, certain news media interviewed the former head of security for El Al Airlines, and believe me when I tell you, this guy knew how to handle security.

It’s an Obama appointee. You shouldn’t expect anything else? As long as he is committed to diversity, universal health care and the myth of global warming, it doesn’t matter if he is competent or not!

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Unbelievable, I can’t fathom this clown is even considered. Yesterday, certain news media interviewed the former head of security for El Al Airlines, and believe me when I tell you, this guy knew how to handle security.[/quote]

yep - they’re too close to reality to be able to fool themselves. We’re just tangling ourselves up in a kind of dangerous fantasy. I wonder how long that will last? LOL!

Here’s a direct feed to the YouTube video so people don’t have to leave the forum:

Should it be any surprise that the establishment wants to distract our attention from the real issues? They don’t like it when those “anti-government types” rub their noses in the shit they have left for us.

“Yes, Sheeple, no worries, the gunverment is here to help you.”

What a toolbag.

this guy is full of fail.

They really will never learn will they.

Militant Extremists in the United States

Introduction

The September 11, 2001, attacks in New York and Washington were the most destructive ever on U.S. soil. But law-enforcement officials have also long struggled with a range of U.S.-based terrorist groups. Domestic extremists include hate groups motivated by ultra-conservative ideals that are often anti-Semitic and racially motivated; ecoterrorists who use violence to campaign for greater environmental responsibility; and socialist groups who oppose the World Trade Organization. While homegrown Muslim extremists have proven more lethal in Europe than in the United States, U.S. authorities continue to worry about the prospect of attacks by militant Muslims who are American citizens. Domestic extremists have a â??longstanding [sic] trendâ?? of committing terrorist attacks on U.S. soil, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigationâ??s 2002â??2005 Terrorism Report (PDF), the bureauâ??s latest comprehensive report on such incidents.linked below

[…]

What is right-wing domestic terrorism?

Attacks committed by people who favor individual freedoms over governmental regulation are classified as right-wing domestic terrorism. Such extremists may be motivated by issues of race, such as the Ku Klux Klan, or other issues, such as opposition to abortion or immigration. According to the FBI, right-wing terrorists often take â??racist and racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatoryâ?? platforms. Far-right movements often blend political rhetoric with racial undertones, despite recent attempts to reach a broader audience by eliminating racial language. [u]Authorities do not categorize people with extreme right-wing political ideals as threats unless the group they are affiliated with demonstrates a real potential for violence.[/u]

[b][u]Are right-wing domestic terrorists still active?

Yes.[/b][/u] Attacks by left-wing or special-interest groups were the most common until the 1990s, when right-wing terrorists began staging more attacks aimed at civilians. The FBI says that the Oklahoma City bombing was carried out by far-right extremists who feared increased UN involvement in domestic policies, opposed stricter gun-control laws, and were enraged by â??several confrontations between members of right-wing groups and law enforcement officers at Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge, Idaho.â?? A right-wing extremist, Eric Robert Rudolph, was also responsible for the 1996 Olympics bombing in Atlanta that killed two and injured more than one hundred. The decline of right-wing terrorist attacks since 2001 could be attributed to extremistsâ?? anger shifting toward foreign entities and away from the U.S. government, the Los Angeles Times reported in March 2008.

The FBI reports that eight of the fourteen terrorist acts prevented between 2002 and 2005 were planned by right-wing groups. The others ranged from an anarchist plan to bomb a Coast Guard station, a prison-gang attempt to attack military and Jewish targets around Los Angeles, and a few people who attempted, individually, to establish ties with al-Qaeda.

[b][u]Which type of extremism poses the greatest threat to the United States?

Although environmental extremists were responsible for nearly all the domestic terrorist attacks between 2002 and 2005, right-wing extremists are still considered the most dangerous to the United States, says the SPLC.[/b][/u] Right-wing extremist attacks are planned to target people, and if successfully carried out, intend to kill many civilians. Ecoterrorist attacks, on the other hand, aim to sabotage the infrastructure of businesses and corporations that endanger the earth; the groups do not aim to kill massive amounts of people.

The FBI says right-wing extremists have the potential to carry out the most deadly domestic attacks since they have a tendency to amass weapons and explosives and have â??a propensity for violence.â?? Increasingly, right-wing terrorism threats come from what the FBI calls the â??lone wolfâ?? terrorist in the FBI Strategic Plan 2004-2009. Such an individual is a fringe member of a formal extremist group but acts alone instead of carrying out a group-planned attack. Despite limited funding, solo attacks can be deadly and are difficult to detect.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9236/#p1
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terrorism2002_2005.pdf

Yep, that’s what TSA should be worried about. Individual racists shooting people in public areas. Not FUCKING MUSLIM TERRORISTS TRYING TO BOMB PLANES!!!

On the plus side, after all of Obama’s appointments, no villages have idiots to deal with anymore.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Militant Extremists in the United States

Introduction

The September 11, 2001, attacks in New York and Washington were the most destructive ever on U.S. soil. But law-enforcement officials have also long struggled with a range of U.S.-based terrorist groups. Domestic extremists include hate groups motivated by ultra-conservative ideals that are often anti-Semitic and racially motivated; ecoterrorists who use violence to campaign for greater environmental responsibility; and socialist groups who oppose the World Trade Organization. While homegrown Muslim extremists have proven more lethal in Europe than in the United States, U.S. authorities continue to worry about the prospect of attacks by militant Muslims who are American citizens. Domestic extremists have a â??longstanding [sic] trendâ?? of committing terrorist attacks on U.S. soil, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigationâ??s 2002â??2005 Terrorism Report (PDF), the bureauâ??s latest comprehensive report on such incidents.linked below [/quote]

I wonder why lefties are so quick to refer to the so-called “right wing terrorists” (why, exactly are they “right wing”?), but rarely if ever mention Muslim terrorists who happen to be citizens, or “eco-terrorists,” or “socialist groups.” Funny that. Also funny that they don’t refer to these last three categories as “left wing terrorists.” Any thoughts on why?

What is this thread about exactly? Mr. Southers began with, “Most of the domestic groups we have to pay attention to here…”

Who is “we” and where is “here?” Was this video not taken when he was working at the FBI? Without context it seems pretty tame, a statement of fact from someone working at the FBI or who used to work at the FBI. I hope the article provides some context for why someone affiliated with the FBI would be concerned with these groups.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Although environmental extremists were responsible for nearly all the domestic terrorist attacks between 2002 and 2005, right-wing extremists are still considered the most dangerous to the United States, says the SPLC.
[/quote]

Wait, you’re using the SPLC as an unbiased source? And, as experts on terrorism?
One of many gems from the article you quoted (but left out): “Left-wing and environmental extremist groups are not hate groups, according to the SPLC.” That’s convenient.

And, where do Muslim terrorists fit into your example? Again, from the article you quoted (but left out): “A 2007 survey by the conservative Heritage Foundation looks at least nineteen Ã?¢??foiledÃ?¢?? terrorist plots, all within U.S. borders.” They would seem to fit into the ‘right-wing terrorist’ end of the spectrum, no?

And, who is Holly Fletcher, and why should we take her as an expert?

I would encourage you to research “domestic terrorism.” I think a lot of your questions would be answered. If you are unfamiliar with the Council on Foreign Relations, as your questions seem to indicate, I would encourage you to research that organization as well as it would help to answer your questions.

I posted the snippet above to give a little context for people who aren’t familiar with national security issues to understand why someone affiliated with the FBI would make those statements.

terrorism, schmerrorism!!

I’m more afraid of the lefties that openly steal from my pockets while telling me its for my “own good”.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
terrorism, schmerrorism!!

I’m more afraid of the lefties that openly steal from my pockets while telling me its for my “own good”.
[/quote]

x2 and qft

Is this the guy that was using FBI resources to check out his wife’s boyfriend, and then lied about it? If so, a fine choice.

edit - just did a search and it seems he is. Not saying I wouldn’t have done the same, but I would expect more from someone that is going to head up and organization like this. Why chose someone that has a history of abusing intelligence resources? At least select someone smart enough not to get caught doing it.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Unbelievable, I can’t fathom this clown is even considered. Yesterday, certain news media interviewed the former head of security for El Al Airlines, and believe me when I tell you, this guy knew how to handle security.[/quote]

Link?

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
I would encourage you to research “domestic terrorism.” I think a lot of your questions would be answered. If you are unfamiliar with the Council on Foreign Relations, as your questions seem to indicate, I would encourage you to research that organization as well as it would help to answer your questions.

I posted the snippet above to give a little context for people who aren’t familiar with national security issues to understand why someone affiliated with the FBI would make those statements. [/quote]

If you can’t answer any of my questions, it’s okay.
But, it’s funny that you turn that around as a failure on my part.

So, again, who is Holly Fletcher, and why should we listen to her?

I’ll make it easy for you and link to the CFR page of experts:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Unbelievable, I can’t fathom this clown is even considered. Yesterday, certain news media interviewed the former head of security for El Al Airlines, and believe me when I tell you, this guy knew how to handle security.[/quote]

Link?[/quote]