Trying to Build a 3rd Cycle

I’m planning on running a cycle in the next few weeks for the third time. I’m looking to recomp and add some quality lean tissue this time around but not too sure what to run. Was wondering if anyone could give me some insight. Don’t really give a shit about putting on sheer mass this time around, more looking to add 5-10lbs of lean quality mass.

1st cycle - I ran your standard Test E at 400mg/week for 12 weeks. I made some solid gains and I was pretty happy with what I managed to retain after PCT.

2nd cycle - I ran Test E at 300mg/week for 16 weeks and Dbol at 40mg for 6 weeks. I made some solid gains again but I did notice the water retention when I looked back at pictures once I came off.

I’m planning on competing next year and seeing how fucked my skin got when I PCT’d first time around, I decided to cruise on 100mg of test.

I’m not really prone to side effects from what I can tell so far. My acne actually seems to clear up when I blast. I did try EQ for a few weeks but i quickly kicked it out of my cycle bc it absolutely obliterated by E2 and i felt like shit.

Third cycle I was looking at primo - i’ve only heard good things and supposedly its tissue selectivity is superior. I also have a legit source, that being said it’s too fucking expensive for the doses I want to run so it’s not much of an option.

What doses? Mine wasn’t that bad. $125 for 200mg/ml 10ml vial.

Since you don’t have bad side effects with TE how about 500mg/w TE for 12 weeks and the last 6 weeks add an oral AAS like Anavar? It is low on sides and no water retention.

I live in Canada so the prices are in Canadian dollars. But it’s about 90$ for a vial dosed at 100mg/ml.

I was looking at var actually, and I heard it’s fairly side-effect free compared to other compounds. I did read that it’s brutal on the liver and lipids though…

What are you experiences on anavar?

I’d try higher test. The gains don’t drop off significantly upping the dose from where you were. Your first two cycles were pretty low for test, so 600-750 mg might be pretty solid. Add in var or tbol at the end.

I am 18 days into my Spring blast of 500mg/w TE with 30mg/day anavar, 2IU/day HGH. This is my second blast using anavar last time I only used 20 since it was my first time and it did trash my lipids. The best thing to do is supplement to help your lipids. Fish oil, D3,CoQ10, I would add NAC but it is pretty hard to get now the FDA ban’d it.

Not for long. The FDA just ban’d it as a supplement in the US.

I luv this guy. He is down to earth and tells it like it is.

While test us super cheap comparatively that’s really not a bad price for Primo. I would go that route. Var is also expensive and you are correct. You can try all the protective support you want but it’s not going to change the fact that Var will reduce lipid health moreso than liver toxicity.

Hmm, I might reconsider the primo then. At what dose would recommend first time around?

From what I understand it’s a compound that needs to be injected more frequently, not sure how this would coincide with running test e parallel to it. I have a rep that carries quite a bit so i can always switch out test esters. He also carries oral primo.

Testosterone enanthate has an elimination half - life of 4.5 days and a mean residence time of 8.5 days. This means you really should inject TE 2-3 times a week so you don’t dip too low.
Injectable Primobolan exhibits a half - life of 7 – 10 days due to the Enanthate ester, and should be administered 2-3 times per week. Sounds like a match made in heaven.

I assumed it was a shorter ester since the primo i can get is dosed at 100mg/ml. If i was running it at 600mg/week i’d be inject more than 3ml with the test which seemed overkill to me lol

If you were interested in primo but disliked the price you might be interested in dhb. It’s somewhat similar

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I don’t think my rep carries dhb unfortunately.

I would ask your cook. 100mg/ml is just the amount of powder they mix n the ester. You want to know what ester they use.

EQ takes 4-5 weeks to actually do something… but yes, it lowers E2, thats why people only take it WITH test, and ONLY if they need EQ, not just to “try” it. There is nothing to try, you take it for a very specific purpose.

Anyways, its very hard to suggest anything without knowing anything. Maybe post some pics of yourself so we can see what we are dealing with and how is that “next years competition” comming for you.

Test/primo 600/400
Anavar for the last six weeks at 50mg/d

If you train and eat right that’s all you need for a proper recomp. The “primo is weak, you need to run it at a gram a week to see anything” meme needs to die. It’s an old way of seeing things. 400mg primo > 0mg of primo. I have a guy running test/primo at 600/600 and he’s recomping like crazy. Up 8lbs, down 3% bf, and he’s basically eating at maintenance or a slight surplus ever day.


That’s false. The actual yield of EQ may only be seen after week 4 or 5, but the E2 inhibiting characteristic kicks in fairly quickly. I felt like shit by week 2, and had bloods taken by week 3 and results showed it had tanked. I got off of it and I added a small dose of dbol and I began feeling better.

Out of principle, I don’t post pics of myself online. There isn’t much to know. I’ve been training for 6 years now and i’ve always been training with the intention of one day stepping on stage.

I’m also not too sure how your original premise makes any sense. A lot of people try to different compounds to experience their effects and reactions. I didn’t just toss in EQ for the fuck of it, if that’s what you’re implying - I had my reasons…and I did take it “WITH test”. I’m not a dope, i’m looking for constructive advice, not a pep talk.

Thank you! I’m going to do a bit more research on my end but this seems like a solid cycle, I appreciate the insight.

Yea…unfortunately i’ve fallen on a lot of online experiences suggesting primo needs to be run at ridiculous doses which is why I opted to come ask about it here…in my experience people are more rational and level-headed on this sub. It’s a huge red flag when I have guys telling me to run it at 800mg minimum when I specifically outlined that i’m still a novice gear user.

Literally dropped my last coach bc he was trying to pump me with insane amount of drugs last summer.

Just make sure you are good with the main Primo side effect (it is brutal on hair). Other than that, it is a great drug (it will impact lipids too, but it is pretty clean compared to others).

For myself, I think I can get better gains on 1 g of test, than I could off of 600 / 400 Test and Primo. I am trying out Finasteride now at low dose (0.5 mg M, W, F), and while blasting I’ll add in an AI if needed. I think that will have less sides than the test / primo combo (or at least sides I care about, hair loss).