Trump: The Second Year

Yeppers.

“Woodward also claims that Mattis slow walked an order from Trump to kill Syria’s Bashar al-Assad in April 2017, instead talking the president down to a set of air strikes. That aligns with reporting by Patrick Radden Keefe in The New Yorker , who said Mattis appeased Trump by saying the Pentagon was working on things, then let them die quietly.”

Well the anonymous author in the NYT is claiming to do the exact same thing done by Mattis in Woodward’s book. So either:

  1. Mattis is the anonymous author of the NYT piece.
  2. More than one person in the WH is undermining/modifying Trump’s orders that they disagree with.
  3. Woodward’s book and/or the NYT anonymous article isn’t true.

Voting 2 myself.

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Hey, @Basement_Gainz and @anon50325502, what do you guys say about a sitting POTUS asking publicly to “turn him/her to government at once”?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1037485664433070080

I’m pretty sure this is “government tyranny” against which every libertarian stockpiles guns…

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Don’t worry. Hes quoting someone else saying that. No way Trump himself would ever say it

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I would be very surprised if General Mattis used an anonymous op-ed to denounce his boss. It doesn’t read like something he would write either.

Jesus…

Remember that line you kept asking about…

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What a train wreck of a human being.

I dunno though…Did Trump initiate force against the NYT in this tweet? A tyrant move would be to have FBI/NSA track them, have Congress subpoena the editor, use the DOJ to sue them for libel, disappear Woodward or have him ‘suicide’ on a park bench etc…

We can reasonably expect what Trump will do if he finds his mole. Fire him/her. Because he’s done that a dozen or so times now and as far as I know he hasn’t charged any former employee with a crime. Can you name any non union/tenure job where criticizing your boss in the media doesn’t get you fired?

I think the 25th amendment is looking better and better. But Trump howling at the NYT because of an anonymous op-ed doesn’t making him Mao or Pol Pot.

The ultimate irony is he’s helping the “failing NYT” get their subscriptions up.

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Given the number of WH/admin senior staffers who are willing to leak to the press, I think #2 is clearly in play, and agree with @anon50325502 that anonymous op-ed’ing doesn’t seem like a Mattis thing to do.

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Well, my personal take on this and why Trump is extremely dangerous is that he’s helping normalize very dangerous behavior patterns.

And down the line someone else will come along - younger, much smarter, more efficient with the same delusions of grandeur, possibly from the opposite side of the political spectrum and simply appropriate the new normal behavior patterns, following a path charted by Trump and his enablers.

The headline at Drudgereport at this moment screams about a “saboteur” in the White House.

You know where “saboteurs” (well, saboteadores) are uncovered on a daily basis and massive conspiracies from the Deep State are regularly thwarted? In a country in South America that practices socialism and starts with the letter V.

Flirting with authoritarianism and tyranny is extremely dangerous, even when the current exponent is a bumbling fool that rages on Twitter. Remember, he’s simply prying open the metaphorical doors.

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Which is why he’ll lose in 2020, if he makes it that far. The adults in the room “subverting” him is proof that there’s some real statesmen left.

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I can only speak for myself on this matter. Dublin and London property prices are so absurd as to not be worth it, and watching my parents go close to bankruptcy over housing purchases inclined me not to do the same.

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If that is the case, then the damage is already done, no?

The UK will likely elect a fully red anti-semite, and no bad press is hurting him, even if they don’t the same beliefs with less bad press and a better tie will win.

Hard to see the anglophone world shrugging this off without it ending in blood.

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https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html

So as of early September, the average is D+8.3. That’s enough to take the house. The Senate looks like a lost cause for any Dem takeover.

this looks promising, but I have to ask: Is Trump to take credit for it?

It seemed scary when he was calling Kim Jong-un rocket man, and I thought any hair trigger shit might happen. Is this in Donald’s playbook?

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Figured I would post this here and ask some questions.

Politics has only very very recently become something I am concerned and interested in.

Anyways I saw this little video clip of Obama encouraging people to vote etc etc. Essentially in so many words shutting down everying Trump has been doing and telling people to vote to stop this. This isn’t the only video clip I have seen of him doing something like this.

Is it normal for a former president to stay involved like this. I can’t recall Bush doing anything like this. Same for Clinton asides for some public speaking.

Most presidents are either too tired of politics or too worried about their legacy by the end of their term to stay in the fray. This presidential cycle is a bit different for a few reasons:

  1. The left is believing their own propaganda that Trump is “literally Hitler”

  2. Trump has withdrawn from the Paris climate agreememt, reversed the CPP, scrapped the TPP, is renegotiating NAFTA, gutted the individual mandate of the ACA (tried to repeal but the REPS won’t help, stepped up ICE raids and deportations of illegals, is refusing economic refugees, cut taxes and regulations etc… He’s doing all he can to completely erase all of Obama’s legacy out of spite. It would stand to reason Obama would want to combat that a bit.

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Haha. Is it out of spite or perhaps he genuinely disagrees with the direction Obama took during is time in office. Yeah the Trump is Hitler is ridiculous. Have there always been this many crazies.

Also, I was very surprised about that NYT piece. I know it was discussed somewhere on here. Has something like that ever been done before? Someone so close to the president. But I also asked myself is it beyond the NYT to fabricate something like that. I mean obviously it goes against the ethos of Journalism but in this day and age nothing is sacred anymore.

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My opinion: little from column A, little from column B.

The NYT denied the Ukrainian famine (and parroted other USSR propoganda) and supported the Castros as anti-communist freedom fighters despite evidence to the contrary. They’ve had other more recent ethics breaches, but those are the most egregious that pop into my head.

Would they commit Libel against the most combative President in the modern era, risking a credible defamation lawsuit? Unlikely.

There are fewer crazies now. There was no internet when the real crazies were running wild.

If thats the case than the crazies around today must be a much more dangerous breed. They clearly have some serious sway and influence.