Trump: The First Year

Trump’s largest platform topic was how he’s not a pol. In reality, he brings very very little to the job in terms of “job qualifications” but the LARGEST selling point was “I’m not a regular pol.”

Now fast forward and we have all the negative side effects of Trump the man, and now all the negative side effects of Trump the pol.

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Thats for the Auto biz… The buy here pay here lots do that. Fantastic biz model. My buddy owns one they sell the same car sometimes 8x. The trick is to get the most on the first down payment after that they mostly flake out car gets repoed. Now days they put a chip in the car so if you miss a payment it wont start. I need more foreclosures. Trump needs to do what Bush did. Stop tweeting BS and make me some $$$ you orange turd daddy needs Versace.

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Certainly he is not the only one but the pure frequency of flat bullshit from this President seems outrageous. Honestly you forget all of it because of how much it happens. And this isn’t a random senator this is a guys whose words matter more than anyone else’s. And his whole history of it. He had proof of the birther thing except he didn’t. He had stuff on Comey except he didn’t. He knew Obama didn’t make these calls until asked right after that and said basically ok not sure if that is right or not.

That stuffs not simple truth stretching to make yourself look good it’s complete lies.

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Dont forget

Largest Crowd ever
Pray 4 Sweeden
Obama wire taps

Yea every week its like 10 more new lies… Its all a plan to distract America from the fact hes a a Russian stooge that got peed on by KGB agent URine Kostextra… The Truth is out there

maybe that’s the problem more so than

Because he is not, by any stretch, the first POTUS to look America in the eye and lie, completely and willingly.

So what’s the real issue then, because it isn’t that he’s lying from that position. Plenty POTUS’s do… Is it because it’s him doing it? Is it the things he lies about? Or are you/we/America finally sick of it?

I wouldn’t include this one yet in your list. But that is just me. (I’m not being a smart ass dick with this, being honest.)

To add, he told the mother of a soldier killed in Niger that her son “knew what he signed up for” and apparently didn’t know the soldier’s name when he called. Yet we have an active thread with hundreds of posts on here about NFL players being disrespectful to our military.

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I agree, especially when it comes to health care. And while noble, this generosity-of-spirit lies at the heart of our current policy impasse.

On the one hand, Americans have a strong anti-socialist streak. For example, most Americans would find the idea of providing everyone with a car to be ludicrous–‘Can’t afford a car? Then take the bus, pal’ is the American attitude. (I’m not passing judgment; just making an observation.) This attitude holds true for most goods and services–with the notable exception of healthcare. That is, most Americans recoil from the prospect of someone being denied critical medical care simply because they can’t afford it. And the thought of babies dying because their parents are poor is completely unacceptable to most Americans.

Unfortunately, these two impulses–anti-socialism on one hand, non-denial of critical HC on the other–are diametrically opposed. That is, there is no policy prescription that can satisfy them both. And the inherent tension between these impulses creates the HC-funding conundrum we are in today. There is simply no way to guarantee even basic HC for all without a policy that is fundamentally socialist. So what we demand of our elected officials is they complete an impossible task–provide HC for everyone, but do so in a way that isn’t socialist. Can’t be done.

BTW @countingbeans , @ActivitiesGuy is spot-on: I found many of the ideas proposed in your comment quite interesting. Kudos.

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Please include the full quote from the call, not a cherry picked snipped used to make him look bad.

There’s no transcript of the call as far as I know. This is based on reports from the soldier’s mother and the congresswoman who was on the phone with them.

It was on CNN its fake news

The real issue in my opinion is the frequency of bullshit seems to be much more than the presidents I have been alive for (Obama, Reagan, Bush both, Clinton). Obviously many of these people have told big lies, but the frequency seems way higher.

It’s crazy he just said basically that Obama didn’t make these calls and then when asked about this was like I don’t know if he did or not. Unreal.

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Trump has already denied saying what the congresswoman says he did. Which is interesting, because there were other people in the vehicle who will be able to confirm one way or the other. Whichever one of them (ie, Trump vs the congresswoman) is lying will have some serious 'splaining to do, Lucy.

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Part of this too is American’s poor understanding of socialism. Socializing the costs of things (which is what the entire social safety net is) isn’t socialism because individuals still have individual ownership of the means of production.

It’s really wealth redistribution, which is just as much a dirty word, lol.

But yeah, it’s an exceptionally large part of the problem. It doesn’t help that dickheads in office need to turn every god damn thing into political football either.

hmmmmm…

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p p p p please have you not been in the real world the last 10 months… He could drop a deuce on his coffin and his base would defend it. Then he would say a bunch of crazy shit and it gets buried under the mountain of crap. Same thing that happens every week. We are all watching and staring in the worlds shitiest reality show #ratingsdown

What is the average donation. Also, with donations you choose where your money goes.

But my point is that there are two choices: either you want everyone to have access to the best healthcare possible (meaning no financial barriers) or you don’t. Once you add the “but” as in, “I want everyone to be covered but…” then you are saying that you don’t want everyone covered. But again, and I’m not pointing fingers at you or anyone else, how many people are willing to honestly say they don’t want everyone to have equal access to healthcare? I know many will use the argument that healthcare is not a right, which is an uneducated argument that ignores why we have any rights at all.

That’s a good point. And as you correctly surmised, I was using the word socialism in the incorrect, common-vernacular sense.

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Consider me firmly in the don’t camp. I want everyone to have access to good, basic healthcare. But “the best possible”? No way. Unaffordable.

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Based on what do you say we can’t afford it? I’m not saying we can but wouldn’t we need to actually draw up a plan before we decided what we could afford?

Imo the real issue is that we sacrificed the good qualities of historical POTUS’ (having foreign experience, not being a general asshole, being capable of at least working with their own party) because he told us “You guys don’t need all that, you just need someone who isn’t a normal pol.”

Now we have a guy who sac’d all those good qualities, and turned into a regular pol anyway. Worst of both worlds.

We made that sacrifice a long time ago. And it isn’t simply the presidency either. Look at Congress: they are almost all idiots. Mitch McConnell has never had a job outside of politics as far as I know. The same with the “intellectual of the GOP” Paul Ryan. College to politics. Their parents’ teat to the government teat. And yet they are among the most powerful people in politics. No wonder voters think anyone can do the job of president.