zeb1:
First of all stop getting your talking points from TB they don’t serve him very well when he tries them either
I’m not taking anything from TB. I can’t debate as well as he can, where he clearly destroys you (from a observation standpoint on other threads)[/quote]
Yes, of course he does
I understand Drew you hate Trump and I am the enemy GRRRRR…LOL
[quote]zeb1:
I am not saying that a civil suit is nothing…where did I say that? Point it out now. You can’t.
You have claimed that the Trump U lawsuit was similar to “an apple tree hanging 10ft over the fence” or being sued by Sally Nobody.[/quote]
I was making a comparison of the difference between a mere civil suit and a US Department of Justice investigation. If you do not understand what a comparison is I don’t know what to tell you. But none of that suggests that a civil suit means nothing in and of itself. BUT…it does mean practically nothing (ready?) COMPARED to a criminal investigation.
No offense intended here Drew but I find myself having to repeat things to you. Not because you are stupid, but I think it has more to do with you being stubborn. You hate Trump, you associate me with Trump and therefore nothing I can say will satisfy you. It really is all so silly and simply causes you to involve too much emotion and thus misunderstanding.
Clear now about C O M P A R I S O N S ?
[quote]zeb1:
Thirdly, we don’t know if the little guy is stealing from the Billionaire yet do we? You are claiming that I said that? Where? Point it out.
In defense of civil suits you put up two cases of Billionaires getting sued where the allegations didn’t amount to much (I’m guessing, didn’t read the articles as it doesn’t matter). You are using those as comparisons to what is happening to Trump.[/quote]
Okay Drew we just went through the meaning of comparisons. Now I want to point out that in these cases I was using an EXAMPLE. And in this case the example’s were quite good because I used other billionaires who were being sued and then suddenly when the rubber hit the road the Judge tossed it out so it didn’t mean anything. My point, which once again escaped you, was to show you that
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Anyone can sue anyone else for almost anything
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Rich people do get sued for things all the time by people who want to cash in.
Also, none of that means that the Trump suit is baseless we don’t know that until it goes to court. Fair enough?
Now keep in mind this was an E X A M P L E.
Clear?
[quote]zeb1:
A civil suit is not as serious as a US Justice Department criminal indictment or investigation.
That’s fine. Doesn’t mean its meaningless, especially depending on the civil suit.[/quote]
Ah…Drew remember the word COMPARISON. Keep that in mind. I am simply stated that a civil suit is far less important COMPARED to an FBI investigation
Again the apple tree suit was an EXAMPLE. I agree someone who commits business fraud is not a good candidate for President. Nor would I support someone who is under indictment, or was in involved in a shady cattle futures deal in the 90’s…or another shady real estate deal called Whitewater. Nor someone who leaked sensitive classified emails to the Russians. Nor someone who covers up for a rapist…Okay you get the picture. None of those things are good. But which is worse?
[quote]zeb1:
When or where did I say that I have no problem if Trump’s business is proven a sham?
When I asked if that impacted your decision to vote for him, you said it doesn’t. Therefore, if it is proven to be a sham or not has no impact on your vote and support for Trump.[/quote]
Because I said that I would vote for him does not mean I don’t have a problem with it. Keep in mind who he is running against. It always comes down to who is worse. I don’t like Trump as I have said he was my last choice on of the 17 republicans who ran. But, he is far better than the corrupt Clinton machine. Get that clear Drew. I honestly think that is where you continue to stumble. Simply because I feel that Trump is a better choice than Clinton does not mean that I like Trump. You are the victim of a logical fallacy if you are thinking this way.
[quote]zeb1:
Try not to get overly emotional like a certain other Trump hater on this site. We can disagree and get along there does not have to be this rancor that you try to bring to every post. I think that is what causes you to use straw man arguments to refute my simple suggestion that civil suits are not as serious as US Justice Department investigations/ indictments
Haha cmon Zeb, are you serious? I’m using straw man arguments?[/quote]
Only when you make claims that I said things that I never said. For example, you claim that I didn’t care if Trump was found guilty of fraud. I never said such a thing but you attributed that to me. Things like that.
You did not point mine out because I have not used any. Oh you mentioned it by I refuted it.
Rancor: bitterness, an angry feeling of hatred or dislike for someone. That is what I am talking about.
Clear?
Drew my young friend. I have been through a lot in my life, as you will someday. I assure you that posting on an Internet message board with someone I barely disagree with does not get me angry in the least. I keep posting back to you in the foolish attempt to correct some of your inaccuracies about me and the election. But it merely passes the time no more than that just simple fun.
[quote]Me laughing at ridiculous statements or pointing out a straw man is hardly rancor, if anything it is telling about your point of view. Good for you, I’m not trying to convince you and we’ve both made our points…moving on.