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Trt with Test Undecanoate?


#1


5'11 225lb 10% body fat

I am prescribed 150mg test cyp per week, no hcg and no ai. After reading some of the protocols on here including the sticky, i feel i should make some adjustments on my own. Whenever i have cycled, i always did more frequent injections to keep hormone levels stable. But have not since trt (pinning gets old). I do experience some "brain fog" and i just started doing some hcg, but just a single weekly shot of 500iu. I was planning to give this a try, and wanted some more expert opinions. Use undecanoate instead of cyp for longer half life for one.

150mg test undecanoate (1x a week)
Hcg 250iu 2x a week

After 4 weeks i can get my bloods done. In fact my next trt bloods in december 3. Should i request any addtl tests? Dhea? Pregnolone?

I dont think my doc has a real strong understanding of proper trt, other than get Total T in range. He initially wanted me doing 1 shot every 10 days. which i refused and said i would do one a week. He started me on 100mg a week and after 4 weeks did bloods. But he did my bloods at 6 days post shot which i thought was dumb. Test levels were still below normal range, and he bumped me to 150 a week.


#2

Test UD at once a week should be ok due to very long half life.

HCG looks good. Some do 250iu EoD. I found this to be too much for me (E2 hard to manage).

4 weeks will not be enough to get you to steady levels with Test UD. I would wait probably 12 weeks. Half life is like 17 days or so.

You will most likely need Adex if you want to keep your E2 in youthful range (20-30).


#3

Watch your hematocrit!
With smoother T levels, it might improve sightly.

Higher molecular weight T esters yield less T.

If you inject with insulin syringes, injecting might not be so negative.
You will feel better with steadier levels.


#4

I am guessing your Hematocrit and RBC are due to recent cycle that you ended? If not, you gotta problem coming up ahead.


#5

[quote]Igs wrote:
I am guessing your Hematocrit and RBC are due to recent cycle that you ended? If not, you gotta problem coming up ahead.[/quote]

I donate every two months and its time. Always high. I havent cycled in almost a year. I have lots of adex and aromasin i can use if i need to.


#6

Ok ill start this i guess. Thursday is my trt shot day


#7

Got bloods drawn, basic female hormone panel. I have extensive labs with trt doc in two weeks. Just wanted to see test level and estro really.


#8

Quick labs. Have doc labs next week and will be more in depth and cover more. Just wanted to see where my test was and estro was.


#9

Been 7 days since shot. My undecanoate is in castor oil too. “Aveed” is what its called here in USA.