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TRT Help & Info

I seen a post written by ‘helper’ in 2010 on the topic ‘Lab Work, Blood Testing and Symptoms’ saying is it possible to make a ‘TRT for Dummies’. I think this is a good idea to make as a sticky, because i have no idea what any of the abbreviations stand for or mean, and i dont really know much about TRT or what my levels should be at.

Im 33, from scotland, and currently on testogel for low libido, ive been on it for 8 months now. My libido improved for the first 2 months, then went back to how it originally was. Although, my energy levels have increased and i feel slightly more confident in general. Ive lost about a stone in weight since being on it aswell.

I saw my endocrinologist today and he suggested a double dose of gel and i also spoke to him about possibly gettin injections. He said ive to go back in 6 months for injections, but he said theirs a monthly jag and a 3 monthly jag. Any idea which injection i should choose and why? Im also not sure if a double dose of gel would be better.

My results from my very first test was (and i think its in nmol’s):

Lutenising Hormone - 15.2
Follicle Stimulating Hormone - 38.3
Testosterone - 9.1
Progesterone - 2.1
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin - 29

I really dont know what my levels mean, how low they are or what they should be. Are they bad? Ive read through some of the stickies already and im still clueless. I also spoke to my endocrinologist about HCG after reading a bit about it, and he said i dont need it. If anyone can help me and explain all of the above, i’d appreciate it.

-age - 33
-height - 5.9"
-waist - 35"
-weight - 71kg
-describe body and facial hair - light facial hair, cant grow moustache or beard
-describe where you carry fat and how changed - buttocks & belly, only lost some weight
-health conditions, symptoms [history] - general anxiety, but has got better over the years
-Rx and OTC drugs, any hair loss drugs or prostate drugs ever - testogel
-lab results with ranges - see above (dont have anything else)
-describe diet - dont eat breakfast, take multivitamins, eat ready meals, and eat chocolate!
-describe training - no training, just alot of walking
-testes ache, ever, with a fever? no ache, no fever
-how have morning wood and nocturnal erections changed - morning erections sometimes

Please use the [Edit] in the right hand lower corner of the above post and add the lab ranges to the numbers.

Read the advice for new guys sticky. Carefully.

Read the protocol for injections sticky.

You really need to be self injecting, more than once a week, see the above. Your doctor is a problem.

If there is something that you cannot understand, try first with google, then ask here. If everything was in a book, there would still be a steep learning curve.

So those lab results are from 8 months ago, before TRT?

What do you mean ‘add the lab ranges to the numbers’? I got a printed results sheet from the doctor and i just wrote above what it says on it, it didnt say anythin else.

I asked about self injecting and its not somethin doctors over here let you do they said. They said i have to go to the doctors and they’d do it for me, i also get it for free on the NHS (National Health Service, Scotland).

And yeah those results are from before i started TRT. All they told me today was that my testosterone level went up from 9.1 (8 months ago) to 13.

Lab results are always evaluated in the context of units and lab ranges. Without this info, it is hard to say anything. You will have to ask.

Free injections are nice, but going to a doctor’s office frequently is a bit of slavery.

Thanks for the reply, i’ll ask about the lab ranges next time i see him, which will hopefully be soon. Before he does start me on injections, would you say a jag every month or every 3months? Or just go up from 1 packet of gel to 2 packets?

Can’t say about the packets as I do not know how to read the numbers.

What kind of T do they inject? There are long acting and short acting types. If short, both options are bad.