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TRT and First Cycle - Update and Log


#1

I was on TRT, 150mg/wk Test Cyp, no AI and 500 iu HCG weekly

So 4 weeks ago I started my first cycle of 8 weeks of Test Cyp
8 weeks 500iu HCG/wk, 600mg T-cyp/wk (300mg x 2) and .25 anastrozole eod
I have no sore nipples

These are my measurements in these 4 weeks, taken on Mondays
183.7lbs 15.5%BF
185.7lbs 15.4%BF
185.7lbs 15.3%BF
184.8lbs 14.7%BF

I am 5.9" tall
my TDEE is 2,460 cals
my current diet is 3,000 cals, 250g P, 280g C, 80g F, 20g alcohol :slightly_smiling:

I am really not feeling that much stronger, I have increased my weights but not at a higher rate than usual.

Am I doing something wrong? Or maybe 600mg coming from 150mg is not much for me? Or my diet isn't enough? or maybe it will hit me later...?
Suggestions?
Thanks

Mister Sandman


#2

4 weeks isn’t really long enough for the shit to build yet. Be patient


#3

If youre trying to add mass and strength id definitely be eating more and if that’s you in your avi you look a lot leaner than 15


#4

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
If youre trying to add mass and strength id definitely be eating more and if that’s you in your avi you look a lot leaner than 15[/quote]

that was last summer, I was about 170lbs and 9% . I bulked since then


#5

[quote]Yogi wrote:
4 weeks isn’t really long enough for the shit to build yet. Be patient[/quote]

ok :slight_smile:


#6

[quote]Mister Sandman wrote:
I was on TRT, 150mg/wk Test Cyp, no AI and 500 iu HCG weekly

So 4 weeks ago I started my first cycle of 8 weeks of Test Cyp
8 weeks 500iu HCG/wk, 600mg T-cyp/wk (300mg x 2) and .25 anastrozole eod
I have no sore nipples

These are my measurements in these 4 weeks, taken on Mondays
183.7lbs 15.5%BF
185.7lbs 15.4%BF
185.7lbs 15.3%BF
184.8lbs 14.7%BF

I am 5.9" tall
my TDEE is 2,460 cals
my current diet is 3,000 cals, 250g P, 280g C, 80g F, 20g alcohol :slight_smile:

I am really not feeling that much stronger, I have increased my weights but not at a higher rate than usual.

Am I doing something wrong? Or maybe 600mg coming from 150mg is not much for me? Or my diet isn’t enough? or maybe it will hit me later…?
Suggestions?
Thanks

Mister Sandman [/quote]

well, what are your T levels on TRT?

150 mg of cycp/e is 105 mg of actual test a week. while that might not seem like much, but most guys only produce between 21-49 mg/wk (70 mg at the very high end).

with a guy on 600 mg a week of test, i would expect a gain of about a pound a week. perhaps you need to go higher in dose, due to you TRT dose. or perhaps you need to bump your calories up a bit…

in looking at your diet, it would appear to me, your maintenance cals are closer to 2900 a day, and that might have something to do with your gains…


#7

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

with a guy on 600 mg a week of test, i would expect a gain of about a pound a week. perhaps you need to go higher in dose, due to you TRT dose.
[/quote]

this is what i am suspecting…

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
in looking at your diet, it would appear to me, your maintenance cals are closer to 2900 a day, and that might have something to do with your gains…
[/quote]

Normally at 2,600 cals my weight stays the same, while it goes up at 3,000

this is corroborated by the calculators
http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/
and even


while the IIFYM claculator is usually 3/400 cals generous

but you are probably right, being on a cycle anb seeing my weight not change at 3000 maybe I should push to 3,500…


#8

Oh that’s funny could have sworn i said the same thing


#9

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Oh that’s funny could have sworn i said the same thing[/quote]
I LIKED YOUR ADVICE ELS!