SO instead of hijacking other threads, thought I would throw up my own.
First, background. 6 foot (actually 5’11.5" after years of riding boats and getting pounded - lost a little height), currently 214, 37 y/o. Been lifting since junior year of high school, so about 21 years of consistent training, following different methodologies at different times in my lifting career. For the last 10 years or so have concentrated on power lifting type training with solid cardio due to job requirements. Current best lifts: 495 squat (a little above parallel), 430 deadlift, 330 bench. Using Beyond 531 now, been doing 531 for a year or so, did a full run of Juggernaut then shifted back to 531 (Jugg was too much volume for my liking). Main goal is strength, with a good build as a byproduct. Try to control BF with cardio and not being too stupid with diet. I don’t follow a real strict diet, just try to prioritize protein and minimize sweets and junk (while still indulging occasionally). BF around 12-14% (electronic scale).
AAS usage: First cycle- used leftovers from friends’ cycles to make a stupid short cycle while prepping for my second MMA fight in 1999 (was fighting heavyweight and was being told opponent was 240 when I was at 190 - Japanese rules). Ramped up to 1000mg Sust and 600mg Deca per week over the course of 5 weeks with no AI, then came off with no PCT. I believe the only reason I didn’t completely screw my HPTA was that the longer esters took so long to clear (especially with the amount I was injecting) that it acted as a taper without even meaning to. Got bacne something fierce and was completely bloated for the fight with no gas. Went the distance, but lost decision.
Second cycle (sort of)- started a cycle of primo and anavar, but cut it short for some reason (this was early 2000, so I forget exactly).
After these, I played around with paper stuff once or twice, and did a couple PH cycles a few years ago, nothing too crazy. Did the PH cycles with no support again, but saw decent gains while on with no ill effects. Last one of those was probably 2-3 years ago. Played around with dbol as a pre-workout (experiment, saw no real benefit but my BF got up to 20% according to BodPod testing which makes me think I was seeing some estro sides), also around 2 years ago.
So a couple months ago I ordered some TBol and tried a solo cycle of that for 3 weeks. Was going to do 2 weeks at 40mg, but extended to 3 since the gains were just starting at the 2 week point. Had nolvadex on hand for PCT, but didn’t use any and had no issues. Gained some strength but no real size (4-5 lbs maybe).
Made another order when I found cut stack on sale. Cut stack is 50mg each of tren ace, test prop, and mast prop. I did 1ml injection ED for 12 days, rotating between delts, lats and each glute. Used no AI for most of this since I thought the Mast would take care of that, but about halfway through the second week I was having some issues I felt were from estradiol (after reading some stuff on here). I took SAMe, Vit E, and P5P for prolactin, which seemed to keep it under control. Due to the estradiol issues, I took 1mg per day of Arimidex for days 10 through 15 (was going to stop at 14 and start nolva on 15, but figured an extra day of Adex (as well as letting AAS levels drop a bit more before starting PCT). Started PCT on day 16, 40mg/day of Nolva to start a 2 week 40/20 Nolva run. Strength gain is hard to measure in just two weeks, but this being my first off week following the short cycle, I am still making progress and feeling strong in the gym.
Started cycle at 207, weight peaked at 217, so 10 pounds gained in two weeks. Today was day 19, 4th day of Nolva and I forgot to weigh before I started eating and headed to the gym, but I was still 214 yesterday. Expecting some weight loss, hoping to keep at least a few pounds. This may prove hard, as according to several online max weight calculators, I am near my genetic limit already (normally walk around at 6ish’ 205ish).
Next shorty will be second half of January, debating between staying with the 2 weeker or going to 3. I will do 0.5mg Adex ED along with the same injections, while adding 60mg/day of winstrol (and possibly same dosage of TBol). A search of the site will show that the few people who have talked about 2 weekers and actually ran them promise to keep updating, but never do. I intend to keep a running update of my subsequent 2 weekers, hopefully with more detailed info than just bodyweight increases. I hope to do measurements as well, and maybe skinfold (not to find BF, but just to show local fat gain/loss).
I will say this about the mix I am using: this seemed harsh. My only injectable experience is from 14 years ago, but I don’t recall any pain/soreness from the sust or deca. This time, the injection site would be painful for several days. My original intention was to rotate among a bunch of different sites in order to foster some localized growth (including pecs, tris and possibly bis). However, after the first couple injections, that plan went out the window. First injection was 0.5ml per delt, second day I did same dosage in each VMO (again, for the localized growth). That spot was excruciating, and stayed sore for almost a week. The delt injection the first week didn’t affect my military pressing, but caused me to cut short my front squatting the following day. After that, I stayed with delts, lats (0.5mg each side), and each glute. This worked better, and will be my strategy in the future. Even following this plan, the soreness would stay for at least 2-3 days. It usually wasn’t enough to impact workouts (after the first couple injections), but I did develop some sort of painful knot in my right lat at the end of the second week.
Overall I was happy with this short run, and look forward to trying it again in the future. I have enough for 3-4 more short cycles, but only enough winny and tbol to accompany a couple of those. Currently planning 4-5 weeks between shorties, so this will run me well into the summer or early fall.