Tren or Masteron

hey folks
im want to start another cycle within the next month or so. I’m thinking Trenbolone Acetate and Masteron with tbol as a kickstart.
Has anyone had experience with either tren or masteron? what kind of gains will i get with just those without test.
The reason i choose those were because i’m not looking to bulk much and i dont want to deal with estrogen.

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That is a good dieting combo if you are looking to get ripped up for a show.

The masteron really in this application is just for libido, and hardness.

The tren and OT will be what gives you the muscle gains.