I am going to start my 1st cycle in a week and I will be using Tren Enanthate. The problem is I haven’t been able to find much acurate info on dosage of Tren En. Has anyone used it? What sort of dosage would you recomend for an experienced lifter on thier 1st cycle?
My Plan:
Wk 1-6 Tren Enanthate @ 100mg E3D, Primo @ 200mg E3D
Wk 7,8 Primo @ 100mg E3D, Test Prop 33mg E3D
Wk 9, 10, 11: Test Prop 33mg E3D, Clomid 100mg ED
Wk 12: 25mg Test Prop E3D, 100mg Clomid ED
Wk 13: 25mg Test Prop Tuesday/Friday, 50mg Clomid ED
Wk 14: 13mg Test Prop Tues/Fri
Wk 15: Off
I will be tapering for the meet on week 7,8. Meet is at the end of week 8.
Here is some background:
Age: 31, 5’10"
Wt: 215@14% BF (give or take)
Bench: 415
SQ: 515
DL: 525
Just to head off the obvious questions, I’m not using test because my source gave me tren Ena. instead of test enan (nice…), and I don’t have the time to get some. I do have 5mL of Test Prop @100mg/mL that I will use for my taper.
[quote]gettinbigger wrote:
I am going to start my 1st cycle in a week and I will be using Tren Enanthate. The problem is I haven’t been able to find much acurate info on dosage of Tren En. Has anyone used it? What sort of dosage would you recomend for an experienced lifter on thier 1st cycle?
My Plan:
Wk 1-6 Tren Enanthate @ 100mg E3D, Primo @ 200mg E3D
Wk 7,8 Primo @ 100mg E3D, Test Prop 33mg E3D
Wk 9, 10, 11: Test Prop 33mg E3D, Clomid 100mg ED
Wk 12: 25mg Test Prop E3D, 100mg Clomid ED
Wk 13: 25mg Test Prop Tuesday/Friday, 50mg Clomid ED
Wk 14: 13mg Test Prop Tues/Fri
Wk 15: Off
I will be tapering for the meet on week 7,8. Meet is at the end of week 8.
Here is some background:
Age: 31, 5’10"
Wt: 215@14% BF (give or take)
Bench: 415
SQ: 515
DL: 525
Just to head off the obvious questions, I’m not using test because my source gave me tren Ena. instead of test enan (nice…), and I don’t have the time to get some. I do have 5mL of Test Prop @100mg/mL that I will use for my taper.[/quote]
I’ve used it. As a a matter of fact, I was probably one of the first people to ever use it. When I sent a sample off to be tested, the Lab said that they couldn’t be 100% sure about the mg/ml because they didn’t have a sample to test it against.
Anyway, I used 600mgs/week I think (this was 2-3 years ago)…you’ll be fine with 300-400mgs/week, but I don’t reccomend Tren for beginners usually.
AR do you ever find yourself kinda feeling “off” or sort of irritable on tren? I normally dont’ notice it till a few weeks in. First time was today and my last shot was yesterday so I’m kinda happy bout that. My gf is being a twat so I’m sure that has more then anything to do with it, still it’s playing it’s role. Plus today is a bad day to try and lower my carbs.
I’ve used it. As a a matter of fact, I was probably one of the first people to ever use it. When I sent a sample off to be tested, the Lab said that they couldn’t be 100% sure about the mg/ml because they didn’t have a sample to test it against.
Anyway, I used 600mgs/week I think (this was 2-3 years ago)…you’ll be fine with 300-400mgs/week, but I don’t reccomend Tren for beginners usually.
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Thanks for the info. Why would you not recomend Tren for beginners?
[quote]WideGuy wrote:
AR do you ever find yourself kinda feeling “off” or sort of irritable on tren? I normally dont’ notice it till a few weeks in. First time was today and my last shot was yesterday so I’m kinda happy bout that. My gf is being a twat so I’m sure that has more then anything to do with it, still it’s playing it’s role. Plus today is a bad day to try and lower my carbs.[/quote]
WTF !! Your doing these types of steroids and you still can’t lift shit . Ha Ha 100% pussy !!!
[quote]gettinbigger wrote:
I am going to start my 1st cycle in a week and I will be using Tren Enanthate. The problem is I haven’t been able to find much acurate info on dosage of Tren En. Has anyone used it? What sort of dosage would you recomend for an experienced lifter on thier 1st cycle?
My Plan:
Wk 1-6 Tren Enanthate @ 100mg E3D, Primo @ 200mg E3D
Wk 7,8 Primo @ 100mg E3D, Test Prop 33mg E3D
Wk 9, 10, 11: Test Prop 33mg E3D, Clomid 100mg ED
Wk 12: 25mg Test Prop E3D, 100mg Clomid ED
Wk 13: 25mg Test Prop Tuesday/Friday, 50mg Clomid ED
Wk 14: 13mg Test Prop Tues/Fri
Wk 15: Off
I will be tapering for the meet on week 7,8. Meet is at the end of week 8.
Here is some background:
Age: 31, 5’10"
Wt: 215@14% BF (give or take)
Bench: 415
SQ: 515
DL: 525
Just to head off the obvious questions, I’m not using test because my source gave me tren Ena. instead of test enan (nice…), and I don’t have the time to get some. I do have 5mL of Test Prop @100mg/mL that I will use for my taper.[/quote]
You think it would be too much even at only 200mg/wk (say Monday/Thursday)? Is tren really that harsh? I know a few guys who use the acetate version before every competition and they swear by it for strength gains. Why would you not recommend it for a beginner?
The only other option would be a light cycle of primo at 300mg/wk but I heard that you need at least 400mg/wk to really get anything from it on its own. Hence the reason for combineing the tren with the primo.
I agree with AR here (shocking i know) you should be fine at 300 to 400 weekly but its not a good drug for a beginner. I love the insane strenght i get from tren (i prefer the acetate) but it is the one and only thing that i can not tolerate due to a pre-existing mental condition (depression and anxiety) it really screws up my mentality. I won’t touch it anymore, but for this short period you should be OK, and realistically you have it so chances are you are going to use it, just watch your temper and realize that when everything starts pissing you off its you, not them.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
gettinbigger wrote:
You think it would be too much even at only 200mg/wk (say Monday/Thursday)? Is tren really that harsh? I know a few guys who use the acetate version before every competition and they swear by it for strength gains. Why would you not recommend it for a beginner?
The only other option would be a light cycle of primo at 300mg/wk but I heard that you need at least 400mg/wk to really get anything from it on its own. Hence the reason for combineing the tren with the primo.
Primo certainly works much better at the higher doses, but without a concurrent increase in sides, which is why I like it. Having said that, I think it would be a waste of primo to run it with tren. Tren is so powerful it will just overshadow the primo and you won’t get an appreciation of the primos effects… IMO.[/quote]
IMO bushy is right the Primo won’t add much better to save it for combination with something else.
I figured that about the primo. The only reason I was going to run the primo was to keep the fiance happy, I heard that Tren kills your libido so I figured that the primo might help that out a bit. I’ll see if I can get some proviron or something instead.
I heard about the increased aggression, I think I could use that to jack up my intesity in the gym. I’m a very laid back person by nature so hopefully at a low dose it wouldn’t be much of an issue.
Incidentally, if I could manage to get some more Primo in the next week, how much would I need per week to have an effective 8 week cycle with just the primo alone? Would 400mg/wk work?
[quote]gettinbigger wrote:
I figured that about the primo. The only reason I was going to run the primo was to keep the fiance happy, I heard that Tren kills your libido so I figured that the primo might help that out a bit. I’ll see if I can get some proviron or something instead.
I heard about the increased aggression, I think I could use that to jack up my intesity in the gym. I’m a very laid back person by nature so hopefully at a low dose it wouldn’t be much of an issue.
Incidentally, if I could manage to get some more Primo in the next week, how much would I need per week to have an effective 8 week cycle with just the primo alone? Would 400mg/wk work? [/quote]
I think you should just try a test only cycle first and see what happens. Your still gonna get great strength gains considering your numbers. If your dead set on tren, then do a test/tren cycle. Either way, good luck.
I know a guy who becomes a different animal on Tren. Its like being schizo in his case. His aggression and irritability are insane. I must mention he is already predisposition to both, but it is something to take into consideration using Tren, but i fucking love it.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
400 will work, but 1200 would be better. This is the problem with primo IMO - it’s just too damn expensive to run at the kind of doses that yeild good mass-building results. Even the powder from china is about the most expensive of the ‘regular’ steroids…[/quote]
1200mg/wk?!? Holy crap! LOL…damn…I’d have to get a 2nd job and maybe sell a kidney…
I’m not too concerned about mass this time around. Thats another reason I wasn’t really THAT pissed off that my Test didn’t come through. I am about 5lbs away from my contest weight of 220lbs so i can’t afford to bloat up too much. I just want some nice strength gains with minimal water weight. I know tren is renound for that, but I would rather not turn into a complete asshole for 8 weeks.
In your opinion would 400mg/wk of primo be effective for an 8 week strength cycle for a 1st time user?
