Why would you take a suppressive compound during the clomid/nolva?
Change day 16 to day 12 or 13 for the hcg. That is my only input.
You are already injecting tren, personally I’d either use prop or suspension instead of the dbol. Especially if you want to end up looking leaner. I bloat like I am being inflated on dbol.
If you have issues with being shutdown easily, maybe consider masteron instead of tren. [/quote]
It is only a day into the PCT, and I put it 2 days after the last androgen dose because from past experiences I have noticed that if I discontinue the hCG too early I end up atrophying in literally a day or two. And I am guesssing that I will still have SOME androgens floating around on day 16.
I would consider masteron however it doesnt compare to Tren in regards to lean muscle gain.
I hate the sides of Tren and I will never be able to tolerate it for 8 weeks like I did before (and shutdown for a year) but I am hoping 14 days of Tren wont have such an impact on my HPTA as 8 weeks will.
Also one thing I was wondering, the point of having the Dbol in there is to normalise oestrogen levels as Tren doesnt aromatise, however I have added in adex aswell which im not sure is the right thing to do as this is counter productive to the goal of the Dbol.
My only defense is that I am running it at such a low dose, it will maybe allow some oestrogen to be present. Any comments on this?
Suppressing your pituitary from releasing LH by taking hcg while taking clomid and nolva to stimulate your pituitary to release LH makes no sense though. Hcg has an active life of what, 64 hours I think, if I remember correctly… So you should either move the hcg to day 13 and start PCT on day 16, if you insist on doing the hcg on day 16, you might as well wait until day 19 to start the nolva and clomid…
I have never heard of atrophy in a day or two. That is very odd to me. I really wouldn’t normally think hcg is needed for a 2 weeker, but if it is what you feel comfortable doing then who am I to tell you otherwise.
As for the mast, that may be more by the individual. Not sure if you have personal experience with mast but one of the guys I train with has comparable results from mast and tren, just less sides and has to pay a little more for mast, although he seems to respond well to any DHT based compound. Personally I gain very little muscle from tren, but lose fat and get stronger.
Whether you decide to take everyone’s advice or not good luck.