[quote]Dark_Knight wrote:
scottiscool wrote:
migrantworker wrote:
So, in response to the OP, I did train until depressed and I did grow, and I don’t really want to do it again. ha
This was my thoughts, results in the short term but is it worth it? Why would someone willingly do this to themselves?
Something that should be kept in mind is that one need not literally “train until depressed.” You could train to the point of accumulated fatigue, then back off and still get great gains. The point is not about pounding the shit out of your system, it is to give a “concentrated dose” of training (if you will), such that supercompensation occurs at a more rapid rate than normal.
Take a look at the chart from Thibs. As you can see, there are several points at which one could halt training to induce supercompensation. Certain programs would put one further down the line, with higher levels of strain placed on the system, thus necessitating a longer recovery.
Clearly, one could manipulate this such that the fatigue and strain are not so great as to make one totally feel like shit - just to make one feel more fatigued than normal.
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Exactly what I had in mind the whole time I read this thread. I have know done 2 whole cycles of two week overcompensation, and I have had great results without going down much in strenght, for example nearly 20 pounds in deadlift in 3 weeks. While you could say my training is far from intensive.
Althought I`m still quite new to this the results have been better than with “normal” training. And, with the sheer volume and frequency you are bound to have some kind of results. I have doing lots of overhead pressing now to get that overhead strenght up, I have been doing this every day, 8-10 sets of dumbell press.
Believe it or not, althought the fatigue is accumulating, I am still, at 6th day, going up in strength. I started with 82, today I did 93. I`m more than happy after 6 months of going nowhere.