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Training Back Thickness Only

hi guys,

Thing is, I am satisfied with my back width at the moment. Problem is, that my arms do not really fit to the rest of my body. Reason being is that I am 6’2 and ectomorph with very long arms. However I always had wide shoulders. I won’t post pictures or anything , so dont even try =) I just want to know, if its possible to train NOT for back width, but for back thickness only ? That would allow me to bring up the arms while not getting a wider back. Its just a theoretical question, please don’t come up with any questions like : why would someone want that etc. thanks

english is not my first language but I think it is width…back thickness is all about, mid back and erectors, so worry about rhomboids, rear delts, mid traps, low traps…
all rows variations and deadlifts, rack pulls, face pulls, horizontal pulling

it isnt my first language either , but yeah you’re right its supposed to be back width, i corrected that.

I know that horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling for width , however I dont know if its a good idea to do horizontal pulling only ? I still want to keep that width, that is the difficulty.

I would keep a vertical back movement in your exercise list,instead just change the order up.
Instead of starting your workout with a vertical movement(if you do), start with 2 or 3 horizontal row movements for thickness, i.e. dumbell rows, deadlifts, 1 arm bb rows etc.

I guess an easy way to put it is: prioritize what you want to work on. Start your workout with movements that will hammer whatever it is you want to develop.

[quote]Shimmy wrote:
I guess an easy way to put it is: prioritize what you want to work on. Start your workout with movements that will hammer whatever it is you want to develop.[/quote]

this is it essentially. If your back needs more thickness and you do 5 exercises on back day, do 3 thickness exercises, or 4. I wouldn’t neglect back width entirely, but you can certainly emphasise your weak points for a while.

ok that helped a lot, thanks

[quote]rewind wrote:
I know that horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling for width [/quote]

This is absolutely false. It’s not what you do, it’s the way that you do it.

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]rewind wrote:
I know that horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling for width [/quote]

This is absolutely false. It’s not what you do, it’s the way that you do it. [/quote]

i love shit like this

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]rewind wrote:
I know that horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling for width [/quote]

This is absolutely false. It’s not what you do, it’s the way that you do it. [/quote]

i love shit like this[/quote]

? What are you referring to?

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]rewind wrote:
I know that horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling for width [/quote]

This is absolutely false. It’s not what you do, it’s the way that you do it. [/quote]

i love shit like this[/quote]

? What are you referring to?[/quote]

Op thinking that “horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling is for width”

seriously… who comes up with this shit?

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]rewind wrote:
I know that horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling for width [/quote]

This is absolutely false. It’s not what you do, it’s the way that you do it. [/quote]

i love shit like this[/quote]

? What are you referring to?[/quote]

Op thinking that “horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling is for width”

seriously… who comes up with this shit?[/quote]

I was under the same impression. What do you do to differentiate between thickness and width?

[quote]ishinator wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]rewind wrote:
I know that horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling for width [/quote]

This is absolutely false. It’s not what you do, it’s the way that you do it. [/quote]

i love shit like this[/quote]

? What are you referring to?[/quote]

Op thinking that “horizontal pulling is for thickness and vertical pulling is for width”

seriously… who comes up with this shit?[/quote]

I was under the same impression. What do you do to differentiate between thickness and width?
[/quote]

id imagine it’s like trying to isolate your quads while doing back squats…

what matters in back movements is your elbow positioning. tucked elbows (towards the hip) = lat focus (width), flared elbows = scapular muscles (thickness). obviously there is more too it than that but I would say it is a better generalization than the ‘vertical vs horizontal’ thing.

for example I could do an supinated grip lat pull down and bring my elbows towards my hips and would feel an intense contraction in my lats. I could also, at the same pull down station, do a pronated grip pull down and bring the bar towards my forehead with my elbows flared and it would hit my rhomboids,traps, rear delts.

[quote]coolusername wrote:
what matters in back movements is your elbow positioning. tucked elbows (towards the hip) = lat focus (width), flared elbows = scapular muscles (thickness). obviously there is more too it than that but I would say it is a better generalization than the ‘vertical vs horizontal’ thing.[/quote]

Good post

To add

If you are doing rowing movements if you bring the bar to/vhandle/db/whatevertheweirdfuckurusing to the hips it will targets your lats more, as opposed to if you bring the bar to the chest

you are aware that the lat is a muscle that is wide…AND thick… right? the lats contribute a great deal to both aspects of the back

i swear you guys worry me sometimes

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
you are aware that the lat is a muscle that is wide…AND thick… right? the lats contribute a great deal to both aspects of the back

i swear you guys worry me sometimes[/quote]

no no nooooo the lats are only the thingy under the armpit of what we see in a front lats spread learn the muscles bro!

/sarcasm… just in case loll

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
you are aware that the lat is a muscle that is wide…AND thick… right? the lats contribute a great deal to both aspects of the back

i swear you guys worry me sometimes[/quote]

I can understand what some people mean though, as its only the lats that will have an impact on width

nothing much sillier than a flat back

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
nothing much sillier than a flat back[/quote]

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