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Total Test: Age-Specific Ranges?


#1

Here in Canada our tests come back age specific. For instance, I m 44 years old and my ranges on labs is 9.9 - 27.8 nmol/l OR US conversion 283 - 795

Firstly this range is very low as we all know 1000 nd/dl is "optimum"
*My last labs returned 1003 ng/dl
My Doc is hitting the panic button saying it's too high. I'm telling him it's perfect.

*My Free and Bio are all good

My question is this......does anyone have age specific ranges that are broken down into 20 - 30 yrs. 30 - 40 yrs, 40 - 50 yrs etc???

I want to be able to show my doc that my ranges should #1 be higher and that the ranges I am being tested under are for an old fart not a guy who wants to get back to ranges for a young man.


#2

good question... but nope, I don't have any age specific ranges.

good luck with your doc


#3

http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/normal-testosterone-levels-in-men.html


#4

I've seen those, thanks but I think those are just averages and not lab ranges.


#5

I think that's about the best "study" you're going to find.

Most docs are going to find 1000+ way too high. I don't personally find any problem w/it. Anecdotally, and most of this stuff is, the "ideal range" I've seen cited the most is ~700-800 ng/dl irrespective of age. The first doc I had said his aim was to get close to 500. Maybe it's psychological, but I like to keep it significantly higher than that. If he feels that strongly about it as a doc - he'll fire you if your levels are too high - my endo did after 2 different times over a 2 year period testing at ~1100 ng/dl, citing, "abuse of the testosterone" - good riddance.. Dealt w/an HRT clinic after this who only care about your initial T levels and now dealing w/a Urologist. HRT clinics primary motivation is money, don't take insurance (my experience) and cost ~110 per 10ml PLUS some other significant charges vs. insurance covered 10 ml vial at $5.


#6

Thanks for the insights. A lot of info that I've read re: TRT suggest that 1000 ng/dl is the sweet spot. I get there with 100mg/wk taken eod along with 250mg hCG eod and 1 mg Arimidex/wk taken mon wed fri and Sun.

I don't feel as good on less Test and I know that adding the the hcg recently bumped up my total Test as well. Hopefully the Doc is cool cuz I don't want to take less Test.

*Prior to adding hCG my total Test was 950


#7

SHBG bound T [SHBG-T] is functionally inert. SHBG levels increase with age, and TT=1000 in older men packs a smaller punch as FT is lower. Tell doc to adjust T dose to achieve higher end FT and ignore TT.

The objective of HRT is to restore youthful levels, not the levels constrained by lab stats of old men.


#8

SHBG bound T [SHBG-T] is functionally inert. SHBG levels increase with age, and TT=1000 in older men packs a smaller punch as FT is lower. Tell doc to adjust T dose to achieve higher end FT and ignore TT.

The objective of HRT is to restore youthful levels, not the levels constrained by lab stats of old men.


#9

Thank you KSMan.....helpful as always. Very much appreciate your continued help and feedback!
*sent you a PM