[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Mad Martigan wrote:
Read this…
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That takes me back… HST was the first full body routine I ever did.
I’m always curious to the people that question the efficacy of full body training, have you ever tried it? Seriously if you never did full body training for minimum 6 weeks how can you have any basis to say if it is good or bad?[/quote]
Yes, I have at least.
Also, I am not saying that TBT will not produce any results, it will. My assertion is only that it is not a great choice if bodybuilding is your goal (this thread was originally posted the the BB forum btw, which is when I first responded to it). If you simply want to get stronger, improve sports performance, or “look good naked”, though then TBT could work just fine.[/quote]
just about every bodybuilder through the 40’s and 50’s used TBT and where just as big and proportional as alot of natty pros today.[/quote]
No, they weren’t. Maybe the biggest, most genetically gifted guys of the guys were as big in the off season as the lower Tier Natty Pros of today in contest shape, but today’s genetic elite Natty Pros are bigger, leaner, and more completely developed than anyone from the 40’s or 50’s.[/quote]
i happen to disagree… have any examples of natty pros today drastically bigger and proportional than guys like reg park? pros today do get way more shredded for competition, but thats the only real difference i see. [/quote]
That makes a huge difference though and is significant.
Grimek looked good, no doubt, but he never got all that lean from any of the pictures that I’ve seen of him (which means that he would have been noticeably smaller if he had gotten down to today’s levels of contest condition).
Jim Cordova is one example off the top of my head. Bigger, leaner, and more fully developed.[/quote]
black and white pictures make it harder too see how lean these people where.
people like grimek, reeves and park where all very proportionally developed and had they came in with today’s leanness, they would still be almost the same size as majority of natty pros. [/quote]
What are you talking about? Black and white photos show more detail in terms of leanness than color photos.
Ok, so the absolute genetic elite of that time would be almost as big as today’s lower tier Natty BB’ers. I’d say that would be case closed right there.